Well, I think that until we see someone tune their MP3 with the NA mods, we can't say that they don't produce any power. Cams alone will never Yes NC has almost all the mods on his car, but he hasn't dyno'd it, nor has his car been tuned. I'm sure once he tunes his car on a dyno, we'll have some idea of what our cars are capable of as far as NA goes. I'm also sure he'll be some what satified with what he has, considering he already owns a boosted car. Without playing with the fuel and tuning the cams, I'm not expecting too much from our motors. I'm saying maybe 132-144whp. Anything more than that and we'll have to get into porting, polishing, knife edging etc...