What do you think the long term durability will be?

Any idea as to why they made the MS3 oil filter a cartridge instead of a spin on?

Advantages are?

Basically, the paper elements are easier to recycle than the spin on filters. The cartridges are a snap to change when they are mounted under the hood the way BMW does it...
 
I read something once about a guy who changed oil for Mercedes at the dealership. He said that most of the cars were using synthetic oil and had it changed around 3-5k miles at each interval.

When he would run a test on the remaining life of the oil, he found that it was usually only degraded about 20%. So, he would always use that oil in his own cars and hadn't paid for oil in years.

He might have been full of it but I do think most people seem to change the oil too soon.

If we can all agree that most dealerships/car companies tell us to change the oil every 5k miles and those companies are usually conservative with their reccomendations, why would we do so sooner?

For the longest time, I would change the oil every 3k miles but not anymore. I change it at 5k and use synthetic. Haven't run into one single issue in three cars now.

Other crap has broken but by the time I sell the cars, the engine is still running perfectly.
 
I just received the results of the first used oil analysis on my MS3. The car has 10K and the Mobil 1 5W-30 was run for 5K with a Mazda filter. The oil viscosity, flashpoint, and TBN were good, but it showed high iron and copper numbers. Most people think that the engine is still wearing in and that the iron and copper numbers will settle down by 15K-20K. I guess we'll see. I wonder what would happen if you ran conventional oil for 7.5K? Nothing good I'd bet...
 
the biggest complaint is the cardboard used in construction. even if they're not garbage there are better filters available in the same price category

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilters.html
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml
http://www.mr2.com/TEXT/oil_filter_test.html
http://www.mindspring.com/~latvia/Other/SubaruOilFilters/Comparison.html

on the wikipedia for fram under "Controversy"

There are several controversies surrounding Fram products; more specifically their oil filters.
  • The Internet website entitled Engine Oil Filter Study [1] had made a "claim" where Fram once manufactured its own oil filters where the owner of a Mopar Chrysler K platform made an undocumented claim that the filter disintegrated. Fram clones (manufactured by Pennzoil and Quaker State) would have been affected since these filters came from the same assembly line. These accusations have been proven false.[citation needed]
  • There has also been some controversy about Frams use of average to below average oil filter medias and cardboard end caps which when compared to competitors of the same price range, may seem very lack luster despite working well enough to meet OEM Specifications.
 
Those were canister style filters and none of that information tested the performance of the filter or were even reviewed by a legitimate testing lab. They were only a description of how they were made. The Fram cartridge style filter appears to be a high quality piece with plastic, not cardboard end caps. I saw no difference when compared to the Mazda filter. I also see no signs of deterioration when I remove and inspect the filters.Are there even any other brands of cartidge filter other than Mazda or Fram?
 
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