water to air intercooler

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Just wanted to know if anyone was running one for the protege?
Ive been wondering about makeing one..
 
this is the one ive been thinking of
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I pieced together a kit from frozenboost.com for my car. I don't really have much in the way of hard numbers to back up the performance, but I'm very happy with it so far.
 
im not trying to sell them just have one I took what i thought was a water pump from a prius and the small heat exchanger and got it for 58 bucks..
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my goal is to have the shortest pipeing rout possible and have minimal lag and also look as stock as possible so I can pass smog..lol
 
I'm running one on my KL swap. I love it! Response is great, it keeps intake temps nice and low - generally within a few degrees of ambient and it made the entire intake plumbing super simple. The distance form the turbo to the throttle body is only about 14 inches with only one bend. Here's a somewhat recent shot of my engine bay

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anybody want to explain this water to air ic to me?

The hot charged air passes through a box with coolant passages in it with fins. This cools the charged air before it goes into the combustion chamber. Heres a youtube clip that illustrates it. This is a 2.0 ecotec supercharged engine but you get the idea. This setup has the coolant passages right in the intake manifold. So now the coolant is hot and is pumped through a intercooler. Supposed to be up to 20% more efficient then air to air setups.



You can see how the air comes into the supercharger were it is heats up from compressing it. Then passes into the intake manifold where the cooling passages are and cools the air as it enters the engine. A few different ways of doing it but all has the same concept.
 
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Now I have another question what can you run through your system
*water
*antifreeze
*ice
These 3 for sure but what about
*water/methanol?
 
Now I have another question what can you run through your system
*water
*antifreeze
*ice
These 3 for sure but what about
*water/methanol?
 
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The optimal would be pure distilled water with something like Redline Water Wetter added to improve heat transfer. If you see freezing temps in your area though, add the required proportion of antifreeze for the temps you see.

Methanol only has about half the specific heat capacity as water, so you'd see much poorer performance. Maybe you're getting confused with a methanol injection system? Totally different operating principles... evaporative cooling (and octane boost) vs convective cooling.
 
Actualy you cleared it up for me thank you for your input and ideas. also today I came up on a bosh water pump off a cady supercharged. I just got to save up for the intercooler now..
 
Oh so you don't use the radiator for cooling you have a whole seprate system that's differnt and smart you don't get that extra heat form the engine and vice versa..good job
 
A clocked turbo with a upgraded smic to a berral style water to air intercooler would be sick and I did think of that but way to much work makeing brackets just to make it look stock still got pass smog but very do able.
 
So let's say outside temps are 60 smic drops them down to around 70 or so then the water to air could drop the rest down to either outside temps or just a tad lower could be sick to see.
As it stands now I have a jery riged fmic from a saab and my temps run between 15-20 higher then outside after long trips I can't wait to see # for the water to air..
 
I have no doubt that you can probably keep water temps close to ambient with a good heat exchanger. The efficiency of the core is going to be key... I suspect those frozenboost cores (which I have) are not quite on par with some of the more expensive ones. But if you throw in an ice box, you can likely make up for it.
 
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