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wanna buy new speaker...any suggestions???
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blake_peanut
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It has a lot to do with your budget. How much are you willing to spend and what kinda sounds are you looking for?
blake_peanut said:It has a lot to do with your budget. How much are you willing to spend and what kinda sounds are you looking for?
Sorry, forgot to provide more info
I am looking for full range speaker
One that has many functions
I listen to many different style of musics
but I am not a heavy metal fan,,,,just want the sound better than original speakers
I am looking for a better quality sound, but not professional sound quality, so price under $300 will fit my budget.
Do I change front speakers only, or rear too? I have no idea what is the difference if I change front only. If there isn't a hug differnet, than I guess I'll just change the front speakers.
thanks for your help.
i would not go with full range... if you want to spend 3 bills on full range speakers why not go with some nice components/a sub/and a 4 channel amp to power them all...
6.5comps=200
sub=100
amp=250-600 (depending on what you want)
8awg/4awg pwr cable=50-75$$
sub box=50
much better set up and not that much more money...
though if you want a full range drop in speaker un amplified i would suggest the alpines...
6.5comps=200
sub=100
amp=250-600 (depending on what you want)
8awg/4awg pwr cable=50-75$$
sub box=50
much better set up and not that much more money...
though if you want a full range drop in speaker un amplified i would suggest the alpines...
tsunami said:i would not go with full range... if you want to spend 3 bills on full range speakers why not go with some nice components/a sub/and a 4 channel amp to power them all...
6.5comps=200
sub=100
amp=250-600 (depending on what you want)
8awg/4awg pwr cable=50-75$$
sub box=50
much better set up and not that much more money...
though if you want a full range drop in speaker un amplified i would suggest the alpines...
Well...I did also think about the components set, but it take too much place to set them up, full range is just a speaker with little bit of everything, wouldn't that be more easier to set up and won't take too much space? I might be wrong, maybe components set sounds way better than full range ... (wow)
Oh yeah, by the way, can Mazda 3 original 6CD player loads speakers which has 200w and 94dB? I am afraid that the original cd player can not load such speakers...then quality of sound will not improve a lot ...
Or I should stay with the head unit and go with 6.5 speakers? will it sound better than 5x7?
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If you decide to go amplified, the route Tsunami described will work well.
You really have to decide whether you think you will ever go amplified. Speakers that work well with deck power won't usually take much power but are quite efficient so can go fairly loud running deck power (around 10-15watts rms).
However, if you get speakers that will take a decent amount of amplified power (around 50-75watts rms), they won't generally be as efficient and so will not sound as loud running on deck power. Once amplified though, they will sound much better than any speaker running on deck power.
If you just want to replace the factory speakers with something that sounds better, then take a look at some Pioneer 6x8's, which will drop right in. They start around $60 at Crutchfield, but probably can find a better price on Ebay. Those sound good and are fairly efficient so you'll get decent volume from the head unit's power. The price goes up from there.
You really have to decide whether you think you will ever go amplified. Speakers that work well with deck power won't usually take much power but are quite efficient so can go fairly loud running deck power (around 10-15watts rms).
However, if you get speakers that will take a decent amount of amplified power (around 50-75watts rms), they won't generally be as efficient and so will not sound as loud running on deck power. Once amplified though, they will sound much better than any speaker running on deck power.
If you just want to replace the factory speakers with something that sounds better, then take a look at some Pioneer 6x8's, which will drop right in. They start around $60 at Crutchfield, but probably can find a better price on Ebay. Those sound good and are fairly efficient so you'll get decent volume from the head unit's power. The price goes up from there.
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BrianG said:If you decide to go amplified, the route Tsunami described will work well.
You really have to decide whether you think you will ever go amplified. Speakers that work well with deck power won't usually take much power but are quite efficient so can go fairly loud running deck power (around 10-15watts rms).
However, if you get speakers that will take a decent amount of amplified power (around 50-75watts rms), they won't generally be as efficient and so will not sound as loud running on deck power. Once amplified though, they will sound much better than any speaker running on deck power.
If you just want to replace the factory speakers with something that sounds better, then take a look at some Pioneer 6x8's, which will drop right in. They start around $60 at Crutchfield, but probably can find a better price on Ebay. Those sound good and are fairly efficient so you'll get decent volume from the head unit's power. The price goes up from there.
see...Here are several speakers that I am thinking to buy, please tell me which one is the best among them all.
1. Infinity 682.7cf (or Infinity KAPPA572.5CF or Infinity 6802cf)
2. Alpine SPR-57LP
3. Pioneer TS-A6880R
I have another stupid question...it seems an amp will bring the sound quality up a lot along with new speakers, which amp is highly recommend? I am not going to change m3 stock head unit (6 cd player), and where is the amp going to be install? under the seat?
Can I just install two full range speakers at front with an amp? would it sound strange? or it would sound better than stock speakers? Once again, I am looking for something better than stock speakers, I need clear and sound quality without crack noice, that's all. Thanks!!
I personally have not had any experience with the brands you pointed out, but if it were me, I would just go to my local stereo shop and listen to the various speakers. Get what sounds best to you. Have them play the speakers you are looking at with the amp (or an amp of the same power rating) so you can hear what they sound like. Listen for your highs smearing, harshness, or crackling at higher volumes (generally means tweeter isn't the best or amp is clipping).
Most of the "crackling" from your speakers is from them trying to produce bass notes at a volume they aren't able to. Sounds like you'd be best served by a 4 channel amp, probably around 50watts X 4. Use the front channels for the front speakers (50W X 2) crossed over high-pass at about 100-150Hz, and bridge the rear channels (200W mono) crossed over at the same, but low-pass, to a small 10" sub.
Amp prices and ratings can be tricky though. Stick with a brand like Alpine, MTX, Kicker, etc and stay away from Pioneer, Sony, and "no-name" brands. Those tend to rate "peak" power (or "max" power) and not real rms power. You get what you pay for - if it's cheap, there isually is a reason. Some 4-channel amp choices:
Crutchfield (Just to use as a comparison. Again, Ebay would probably be cheaper).
To keep using your stock deck, you're gonna need a "line-out converter". This will tap into the speaker wires at the deck and convert the high-level signal into a lower level and amplifier input can use. I personally don't like them (there is always some distortion introduced in the deck oouput amplifier, which is carried on in the output of the LOC), but others use them just fine. It's really the only choice when using the stock deck.
Most of the "crackling" from your speakers is from them trying to produce bass notes at a volume they aren't able to. Sounds like you'd be best served by a 4 channel amp, probably around 50watts X 4. Use the front channels for the front speakers (50W X 2) crossed over high-pass at about 100-150Hz, and bridge the rear channels (200W mono) crossed over at the same, but low-pass, to a small 10" sub.
Amp prices and ratings can be tricky though. Stick with a brand like Alpine, MTX, Kicker, etc and stay away from Pioneer, Sony, and "no-name" brands. Those tend to rate "peak" power (or "max" power) and not real rms power. You get what you pay for - if it's cheap, there isually is a reason. Some 4-channel amp choices:
Crutchfield (Just to use as a comparison. Again, Ebay would probably be cheaper).
To keep using your stock deck, you're gonna need a "line-out converter". This will tap into the speaker wires at the deck and convert the high-level signal into a lower level and amplifier input can use. I personally don't like them (there is always some distortion introduced in the deck oouput amplifier, which is carried on in the output of the LOC), but others use them just fine. It's really the only choice when using the stock deck.
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The Infinity reference series sound great in my MZ3, I have them up front and going to do a set in back too. Sound quality and highs sound 10x better. I am running them off a 52x4 stereo and is plenty loud and clear. If you go with the Ininity Kappa series you will need a amp to run them, they handle alot more power and underpowering them could ruin them. I see the Infinity reference series all the time on ebay for about $44, so about $100 shipped for all 4. I did think about taking my front Infinity's out and moving them to the back, then getting a component(think Infinity makes them in the reference series too) and mount the tweeter up near the side mirrors for better imaging. If you want to keep in a $300 range and have a good sounding system, I would get 4 reference series Infinity's, a amplified 10 or 12 in a bandpass box and the install stuff. I see amplified subs all the time for under $100, not the best stuff, but it will sound good. Even a Infinity basslink amplified sub would work good, but they are around $190 shipped, then you still would need a line to rca converter and the amp install kit, so your cost would go to $400 or so.
rotwiler said:The Infinity reference series sound great in my MZ3, I have them up front and going to do a set in back too. Sound quality and highs sound 10x better. I am running them off a 52x4 stereo and is plenty loud and clear. If you go with the Ininity Kappa series you will need a amp to run them, they handle alot more power and underpowering them could ruin them. I see the Infinity reference series all the time on ebay for about $44, so about $100 shipped for all 4. I did think about taking my front Infinity's out and moving them to the back, then getting a component(think Infinity makes them in the reference series too) and mount the tweeter up near the side mirrors for better imaging. If you want to keep in a $300 range and have a good sounding system, I would get 4 reference series Infinity's, a amplified 10 or 12 in a bandpass box and the install stuff. I see amplified subs all the time for under $100, not the best stuff, but it will sound good. Even a Infinity basslink amplified sub would work good, but they are around $190 shipped, then you still would need a line to rca converter and the amp install kit, so your cost would go to $400 or so.
I am going to get a pair of infinity kappa series, but after I read your suggestion, I think I will hold and wait for a while, because you said kappa series need amp to run, I have no idea where should the amp to be install, and what else do I need if I am going to install an amp. I thought I can just buy a pair of Infinity kappa series and install them alone with Mazda head unit, but would the sound quality strange? or alot better than stock speakers? An amp is to provide heavier bass right? if I don't install an amp, do I get any bass at all? thanks
reniccc said:I am going to get a pair of infinity kappa series, but after I read your suggestion, I think I will hold and wait for a while, because you said kappa series need amp to run, I have no idea where should the amp to be install, and what else do I need if I am going to install an amp. I thought I can just buy a pair of Infinity kappa series and install them alone with Mazda head unit, but would the sound quality strange? or alot better than stock speakers? An amp is to provide heavier bass right? if I don't install an amp, do I get any bass at all? thanks
5x7/6x8 are not the best for bass anyway. The reference Infinty speakers will sound better off the stock deck than the Kappa(they will get louder and not be underpowered). My 02 Z28 has 6.5's and I was thinking about the Kappa series since I have a Monsoon system with a amp in my car, but even that isn't enough to power the Kappas like they should. You will get more bass and crisp highs with the reference series and they just slide in with no problems. Also, the tweeter rotates to get better imaging. With the stock speakers in back and Infinity front, I turned off the front speakers and the stock ones sounded horrible in comparison, 1/2 the volume and distored 1/2 volume. The Infinitys are efficient and you may be happy with just those in your car. I listen to my music pretty loud and they sound great even at almost full volume. Your never going to get great bass with the 5x7/6x8's even with Kappa's and amp(more mids and highs only). You will need a sub for the lows.
6.5" drop in easy to b/c most nowadays come with adaptor plates... i would go to a local stereo shop and just listen to what you speakers in your price range (and even out just to get an idea of sound) and always use the same amp... find a reputable 4 channel amp in your price range and then once you have that picked out you can match a sub and front speakers to it.... pretty much the system is only as good as the amp, so the more money you spend on it the more you spend on speakers and a sub...
DO NOT GET THE KAPPAS
With kappas it used to e that they were power hungry and thusly required an amp. But NOW any of the current model kappas are 2ohm speakers meaning they will ask more from your stock deck than it can provide whihc has a very good possibility of killing it. VOlume wise, they'll likely sound about the same as refrences off of deck power, but THIS IS NOT SAFE... All that said, Honestly I PREFER the sound of refrences. and they'll not kill your head unit doingso. If you want to get an amp, kappas will work ,but I'd still prefer the refrences. Search aorund in the regular car audio section, there's much to learn. and I don't ahve the breath.. or fingerstrenght as it were.
With kappas it used to e that they were power hungry and thusly required an amp. But NOW any of the current model kappas are 2ohm speakers meaning they will ask more from your stock deck than it can provide whihc has a very good possibility of killing it. VOlume wise, they'll likely sound about the same as refrences off of deck power, but THIS IS NOT SAFE... All that said, Honestly I PREFER the sound of refrences. and they'll not kill your head unit doingso. If you want to get an amp, kappas will work ,but I'd still prefer the refrences. Search aorund in the regular car audio section, there's much to learn. and I don't ahve the breath.. or fingerstrenght as it were.
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I swear by the reference speakers, they sound so good off just deck power and are very efficient(doesn't take alot of power to make them play, 2-60 watts rms). I am sure you wont be unhappy with them. I'd get them in my Z28 if they were 2ohm. You could get 4 for almost the price of the Kappas and use the extra for a sub.
I did decide on the 2ohm kappa KAPPA 62.7's(75 watts rms) in my 02 Z28 to replace the stock 6.5's after reading some reviews by people who put them in a Z28, but my Camaro has a factory amp that runs all the 6.5's in 2ohm(factory 4ohm DVC's wired to 2ohm). Wierd setup, but the 2ohms work perfect in my situation and the monsoon amp says 500 watt peak, so I would think it is around 250 watts real world, so would give me around 60 watts rms and slightly more peak, the tweeters are run off deck power only in my Z28 and depending on the model or brand of speaker I have to wire the tweeters seperate or buy components.
I did decide on the 2ohm kappa KAPPA 62.7's(75 watts rms) in my 02 Z28 to replace the stock 6.5's after reading some reviews by people who put them in a Z28, but my Camaro has a factory amp that runs all the 6.5's in 2ohm(factory 4ohm DVC's wired to 2ohm). Wierd setup, but the 2ohms work perfect in my situation and the monsoon amp says 500 watt peak, so I would think it is around 250 watts real world, so would give me around 60 watts rms and slightly more peak, the tweeters are run off deck power only in my Z28 and depending on the model or brand of speaker I have to wire the tweeters seperate or buy components.
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Well Every One Has Their Own Pref. I Think Alpine Is The Way To Go Good Product For A Good Price. I Have Alpine E Class Subs Powered By A Kenwood Amp. The Best Way Is To Go To A Store And Test The Subs Out That You Like Than Look On The Internet And Get A Good Deal.
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Dont Buy Sony. The Price That You Pay For A Sub Effects Both Your Wallet And Quailty
I've also heard good things about the Alpine. My 2 choices in my other car were Alpine and Infinity. Both are efficient and should sound good off deck power, just don't try to go overboard and get speakers because they can handle more watts unless you are getting a amp to put to them.
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YEA I HAVE YET TO BUY MINE BUT MY PLAN IS TO BUY SPEAKERS THAT DONT NEED AN AMP. SOMTHING THAT NEEDS ONLY THE POWER THAT MY DECK/ RECIVER PUTS OUT.
rotwiler said:I've also heard good things about the Alpine. My 2 choices in my other car were Alpine and Infinity. Both are efficient and should sound good off deck power, just don't try to go overboard and get speakers because they can handle more watts unless you are getting a amp to put to them.
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