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- 2003.5 Titanium Gray MSP #1699
Hey noclue, you obviously have no clue if you think the R32 is slow:
http://www.hpamotorsports.com/r32.htm
http://www.hpamotorsports.com/r32.htm
that is with HPA tuning.... Look at the HP its putting out... If i get that much $ tunning i can get my MSP that fast tooBlack Majik MSP said:Hey noclue, you obviously have no clue if you think the R32 is slow:
http://www.hpamotorsports.com/r32.htm
I think bad power:weight would be a better description as the STi and EVO pull to 60 in under 5 second and the STi needs a second shift to do it. Thats considerably faster.Replica said:Also remember it's an AWD car and it's more luxioury than anything. The VR6 is a tough b**** too. A WRX and EVO are close to that wieght, so I'm not sure how it's a "heavy b****."
Ya right, What are you Smokin Bronoclue119 said:that is with HPA tuning.... Look at the HP its putting out... If i get that much $ tunning i can get my MSP that fast too
No, they just run high 13's stock with a good driver and with bolt ons and MBC mid 12's...(attn)noclue119 said:I say heavy b**** cuz the 3,036 lb for a stock VW vr6 that is almost a 10% increase in weight...
Well SRT-4 owners can see that our car's weight i worth the Amp and speaker. As for MSP it still handels better with more weight, what does that tell u about srt engineering... Not that i'm bashing SRT engineers....
Actually yes I am.... Dumb Dodge Engineers. (upyours)
I agree, for the price they should have more power...1st MP3 in NH said:I think bad power:weight would be a better description as the STi and EVO pull to 60 in under 5 second and the STi needs a second shift to do it. Thats considerably faster.
Mid 12s without the MBC.Replica said:No, they just run high 13's stock with a good driver and with bolt ons and MBC mid 12's...(attn)
Stage 1 is 2500 dollars alone.. remember 10k difference between the cars too.. so that gives me 12.5k to mod my car... U don't think i can make my car as fast as that car for 12.5 grand.kingd0g said:Ya right, What are you Smokin Bro
Oh, it went from the R32 sucking because it was "slow" compared to the EVO-STI so I made the comparision that maybe the MSP sucks in that same standard VS the SRT-4.noclue119 said:I'm talking about handling....
No that was two different phrases..Replica said:Oh, it went from the R32 sucking because it was "slow" compared to the EVO-STI so I made the comparision that maybe the MSP sucks in that same standard VS the SRT-4.
im totoally with you on that oneSpooled said:You guys are right about the R32 being too much money for the performance, but you have to remember that performance isn't everything all the time. I bought an MSP when I could have bought an SRT-4 for $17k out-the-door before they were even available here in Michigan. Sure the SRT-4 can walk all over my stock Speed (straight line at least), but my car looks better, handles better, and the interior spanks that plastic jellybean.
People that have $12k to drop into a car for aftermarket parts are going to have a badass car no matter what they start with. I would, however, really like to drive a twin-turbo VW R32. Just remember, Supras aren't exactly light, either.
1. 4motion = AWD not 4WDDragonEye said:im totoally with you on that one
and for the spaz that is b*tching that the R32 is heavier than the VR6 its because it has 4 motion (4WD) compared to the VR6 which is only FWD... the car is a great car, the engine has much potential with out even modding everything on the internals like you have to do on lots of the mazdas just to turbo it (yes i know there are kits out there that you don't have to change much) but with a TT set-up on this thing, you will have the comfort of a VW/Audi, performance of the enzo, and the handeling of a Z06
the TT R32 top speed is 202mph, that is really close to 217.5......noclue119 said:1. 4motion = AWD not 4WD
AWD = 2 wheel most times and 4 when 1 of the orginal two slips. Computer decides.
4WD = 4 wheels all the time unless a its manually disenaged.
2. Just fyi when they went from RWD rally WRC cars to AWD the cars only gained a total weight of 75-100 lbs(i.e. MINI rally car)..... Shows u that AWD does not have to weight much. I know its racing tuned but come on 15 years later if they can't bring down the weight of AWD yet, we are in trouble.
3. Volkswagen = Cheap car in german. direct translation
4. Audi = VW
5. by transative propers Audi = Cheap cars. (math rule a=b b=c then a=c)
6. ENZO has a top speed of 217.5 mph. The TT R32 is not even close.
7. Z06 handling is nice... I agree with that...
I'm not bashing the car here... I almost got the 20th GTI instead of my MSP... But the car - money ratio here is not very good when we are talking about the 20th and R32.
Lamborghini = VW, so by your logic, Lamborghini = Cheap cars. Brilliant.noclue119 said:3. Volkswagen = Cheap car in german. direct translation
4. Audi = VW
5. by transative propers Audi = Cheap cars. (math rule a=b b=c then a=c)
Bugatti aswell?JunkPunch said:Lamborghini = VW, so by your logic, Lamborghini = Cheap cars. Brilliant.
1st MP3 in NH said:Bugatti aswell?