Very disappointed..
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japmaxse said:
I feel ya on the need 4 speed thing. The lack of power can be made up for in a lot of situations where you would need it & I'll leave that @ that so e-riots don't break out about driving habits. I in no way condone breaking any traffic laws to overcome or counteract other driver's actions or take advantage of their ignorance. I favor the supra because I have had a toyota truck for over 21 yrs. I think there is an online manual at ugly.net that may contain some of the information you seek. I peaked into my pdf manual @ technical data under engine section & it had some specs but not really much about materials.
hurleyblink
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Drive it with yourself inside off a cliff then you wont have to worry about it being slow.. Learn to drive it for one.. if you wanted a faster car then why didnt u buy one? it is pointless to spend thousands on a car for turbo unless you know what your doing, plus nitrous sucks, it ruins any engine in the long run..
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stop saying its slow ..... because all in alll its not really that slow out there..... toss on a few mods and u can compete with most n/a cars........... IHE, underdrive and even cams orso...... now read stuff on the forums everythings here all u need to do is take the time to look @ it........
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65racecoupe
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ghettobubba2001 said:
No need to call him an idiot, I think he has some valid points. I also believe that he has some sort of car knowledge, so calm down a little. (cheers)
I think the P5 is fairly slow myself. You can not just throw on the normal NA mods and compete with most NA cars. That is Honda engine territory.
Our cars can compete with high level cars when built right.
It is kind of an all or nothing situation if you want a truly FAST daily driver car. If you want a nice daily driver, you could put a turbo on the STOCK engine at 5 to 7 psi.
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if u look @ this car when it was built..... it was fast Then. Technology changes everyday. New things are come up or found out everyday. Stop complaining our car is slow, and nonetheless if he knows about cars he wouldnt have bought it. (blowjob)
Simply put, if your goal is to run 10's with any import vehicle purchased stock, look to spend between 5k-10k. The protege is an underdog, that with time, and money can be made to perform with the big boys, its like that 5ft 8inch hockey player that was told he'd never make the nhl.. well.. there will be some that prove them wrong.
And if ya don't wanna put in a lot of money to run 10-12's.. sell the car, buy an 80's honda civic, put 4k into it and run your 12's.
And if ya don't wanna put in a lot of money to run 10-12's.. sell the car, buy an 80's honda civic, put 4k into it and run your 12's.
flat_black
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The car does have N/A potential. I would suggest removing excess weight from the drivetrain. Light weight wheels (Sub 11 pounds), lightweight lugs, lightweight crank pulley, and 7 pound flywheel... That unstraps along the order of 30 pounds off of the crank, and that makes a HUGE difference in the feeling of the car.
Next, intake and exhaust need to be dealt with. Header back, take your pick. Intake is up to you, but my suggestion would be to go with a new design of intake manifold. I have a set of ITB's just sitting around, waiting for an ECU. The stock manifold design is 'okay' at best, I'm convinced. Most anything would be an improvement, but really, these changes need to be done in conjunction with an ECU.
Cams need to come at the same time, and you'll want to get a spare head. Work over the exhaust side first and foremost; A lot of material can be removed from there, and should be... The angles therein are a little hairy, too, so those can be smoothed out as well. The cams I went with ended up being in the 270I/280E range, or so, with a touch more lift than stock.
I think the Protege seems slow because a lot of people take a rather conventional approach with tuning it. What I've found thus far, is that the car is just WASTING power, rather than not having it. That, and lots of people strap on oversized/heavy wheels.
Next, intake and exhaust need to be dealt with. Header back, take your pick. Intake is up to you, but my suggestion would be to go with a new design of intake manifold. I have a set of ITB's just sitting around, waiting for an ECU. The stock manifold design is 'okay' at best, I'm convinced. Most anything would be an improvement, but really, these changes need to be done in conjunction with an ECU.
Cams need to come at the same time, and you'll want to get a spare head. Work over the exhaust side first and foremost; A lot of material can be removed from there, and should be... The angles therein are a little hairy, too, so those can be smoothed out as well. The cams I went with ended up being in the 270I/280E range, or so, with a touch more lift than stock.
I think the Protege seems slow because a lot of people take a rather conventional approach with tuning it. What I've found thus far, is that the car is just WASTING power, rather than not having it. That, and lots of people strap on oversized/heavy wheels.
Check this out, this is a video of my maxima right after the swap. I tried to blow up my auto transmission before I swap it to the 5spd and at the end of the night I was down to 2 gears barely. (boom04)
Click Here For Video
Click Here For Video
flat_black
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Corrola S wasn't faster, and had rear drums... Z24, I somehow doubt was faster, really, and was just a piece of crap. The others are acceptable, however, they were in a different price range. I paid 14k for my Protege5. Those cars are more around the 20k range.
The P5 was meant to be a good looking wagon, really. Which it accomplishes. I think the MSP is more in the range of those others you listed.
The P5 was meant to be a good looking wagon, really. Which it accomplishes. I think the MSP is more in the range of those others you listed.
65racecoupe
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Replica said:
The Civic and Focus SVT are good, but I don't really like the other ones, especially the Cavaliers.. The Celica GTS has potential (though hardly anyone does those cars well).
