US Diesel's big splash introduction

[LDR]

Yet the website link is https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/2017-cx-5-diesel

Note the 2017 listing

Think they'll bring back the manual transmission with the diesel option?

 

[Anchorman]

Think they'll bring back the manual transmission with the diesel option?

It’s the slickest 6 speed manual I’ve ever come across. Mine is auto which is also good.

 

[Monterra]

Think they'll bring back the manual transmission with the diesel option?

No, as in 0.00%..sorry but I am this sure..why? 1. Not going to offer it on a lower demand higher priced engine. 2. They've already said diesel will likely be exclusive to higher trim(s) 3. It will add to cost 4. Let's just get the engine option here and call it a win..but..paddle shifters please

 

[Monterra]

Here's a taste of the 175hp diesel for USA/Canada folk.

Starts off with snow driving then hits the road and freeway (sunny day no snow) - see it accelerate/overtake and reach/stay at 150km/h (93mph):

Thanks X...First off this dude is way over-ballsy on that snowy (tree lined) road even assuming winter tires.
Secondly the car sounds way better than expected and I so want this even more now be it 175 or 190hp- here's the $, take it and let's move on w/life.

 

[Unobtanium]

It drops off the top of the torque curve and wastes fuel.

So you're saying that the vehicle would complete the 0-100mph dash faster if one shifted it at 3K instead of the redline, whatever that is (5k?)

 

[Jonno21]

I wish UK roads were as clear, and look, not a pothole in sight.

 

[xtrailman]

Probably by taking it up to 4800 rpm which I believe is max power.

But I usually just let the auto decide with my foot to the floor.

So you're saying that the vehicle would complete the 0-100mph dash faster if one shifted it at 3K instead of the redline, whatever that is (5k?)

Red line is 5200rpm.

 

[xtrailman]

It drops off the top of the torque curve and wastes fuel.

Driving flat out will always waste fuel, feels good though giving it the occasional work out. (dance)

 

[xtrailman]

No, as in 0.00%..sorry but I am this sure..why? 1. Not going to offer it on a lower demand higher priced engine. 2. They've already said diesel will likely be exclusive to higher trim(s) 3. It will add to cost 4. Let's just get the engine option here and call it a win..but..paddle shifters please

The manual override with the auto is all you need, forget paddles, I've had the manual it's ok, quicker and more economical, cheaper to tax in the UK and cheaper to buy.
But auto is my choice, I recently descended the snow covered hill I live on in manual first and couldn't fault it, engine braking was excellent.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Think they'll bring back the manual transmission with the diesel option?

For you guys I doubt it

 

[Xeler8ing]

Thanks X...First off this dude is way over-ballsy on that snowy (tree lined) road even assuming winter tires.
Secondly the car sounds way better than expected and I so want this even more now be it 175 or 190hp- here's the $, take it and let's move on w/life.

(thumb)

 

[Xeler8ing]

The best pulling power comes at low revs. Revving it doesn’t get anywhere.

(iagree) but also has some oompf for overtaking

 

[Anchorman]

So you're saying that the vehicle would complete the 0-100mph dash faster if one shifted it at 3K instead of the redline, whatever that is (5k?)

Without a doubt, you are right that technically the highest acceleration should come with revs but I've got some long steepish hills that I can overtake with. The problem comes with the way the auto holds on at full throttle so if you can find somewhere to experiment, try letting it do its best at full throttle then try manually changing up over the same road at a max of 2500rpm and see how it compares. Mine pulls like a train at low revs.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Probably by taking it up to 4800 rpm which I believe is max power.

But I usually just let the auto decide with my foot to the floor.



Red line is 5200rpm.

Over here in OZ land, max power (129KW/175HP) is reached at only 4500rpm.

 

[xtrailman]

I don't think you would notice 200rpm (sun)

 

[xtrailman]

Its BHP that gets you up the hill the quickest.

Without a doubt, you are right that technically the highest acceleration should come with revs but I've got some long steepish hills that I can overtake with. The problem comes with the way the auto holds on at full throttle so if you can find somewhere to experiment, try letting it do its best at full throttle then try manually changing up over the same road at a max of 2500rpm and see how it compares. Mine pulls like a train at low revs.

 

[Xeler8ing]

I don't think you would notice 200rpm (sun)

Agreed

 

[Unobtanium]

Without a doubt, you are right that technically the highest acceleration should come with revs but I've got some long steepish hills that I can overtake with. The problem comes with the way the auto holds on at full throttle so if you can find somewhere to experiment, try letting it do its best at full throttle then try manually changing up over the same road at a max of 2500rpm and see how it compares. Mine pulls like a train at low revs.

Eh, I value horsepower more. These vehicles are prime examples. The diesel and gas burner both do similar 0-60s. Hp is what matters for acceleration. Torque feels nice though. That's why all these old 60s muscle car guys keep saying their cars were fast compared to today. 99% were not, but the torque of those 460s and 427s and 454s will sure give you the feels.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Yes you need good HP but good torque (at low revs) is also important for the shove you need to get off the line.

So... good amount of HP coupled with good dollops of torque at low revs.

Problem solved

 

[Anchorman]

Until somebody tries it there isn’t much point.