Turbo Matty P
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you need to PM me....mazda likes trolling these boards for people like us!
update on blown motor
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A dealer cannot deny warranty service simply due to the fact you have aftermarket parts installed. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects consumers from such abuse. The dealer has to prove that the aftermarket part caused the problem to deny warranty service. However, as this article points out, it can get a little tricky and you have to be prepared to make your case (it's from a WRX site, but the principles are the same for any car):
http://www.fastwrx.com/wilthesparvo.html
Here's more info on unfair warranty denial and what you can do about it:
http://www.sema.org/content/?ID=22237&criteria=warranty+act
http://www.fastwrx.com/wilthesparvo.html
Here's more info on unfair warranty denial and what you can do about it:
http://www.sema.org/content/?ID=22237&criteria=warranty+act
Turbo Matty P
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uhuh....and you've taken a dealer and MNOA to court?
Who's advice would you rather have? Someone that has actually done it or someone who read something on the internet?
Who's advice would you rather have? Someone that has actually done it or someone who read something on the internet?
Wow, I must have broken the 11th commandment... never take advice from anyone other than Turbo Matty P! 
Seriously though, it was not my intention to step on your shlong. You give good advice and have experience to back it up. However, some people don't have a clue about this s*** and when the dealer denies a warrantly claim for their water pump because they installed a shift knob, they don't know what to do. I just thought those two links might help explain thier options.
Seriously though, it was not my intention to step on your shlong. You give good advice and have experience to back it up. However, some people don't have a clue about this s*** and when the dealer denies a warrantly claim for their water pump because they installed a shift knob, they don't know what to do. I just thought those two links might help explain thier options.
Turbo Matty P
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Whats going to happen is that some of these people are going to go into their dealerships and think the Magnasson Moss act is going to do anything for them. You think after the RX-7's and miata's that the dealership doesn't know about the Magnusson Moss act? They know about it and they know how to discount it.
I'm just trying not to give anyone a false sense of hope. Anyone that asks me advice I tell the same thing:
Do not go to the dealer for anything. Once your warranty runs out you should never go back. The dealer can deny your warranty even if you don't mod your car. They know that you aren't going to actually get them into a courtroom. they will wait you out and put you off and make it so damn frustrating that you give up.
Dealers suck. I wouldn't buy cars from them if I could buy direct from the manufacturer. Here in Bama we can buy the Mercedes SUV straight from the factory for a set percentage over cost. It's very cheap and MUCH cheaper than going to the Mercedes dealer in B'ham.
in summation: STAY AWAY FROM THE DEALER DEALER = EVIL ASS INVADERS
I'm just trying not to give anyone a false sense of hope. Anyone that asks me advice I tell the same thing:
Do not go to the dealer for anything. Once your warranty runs out you should never go back. The dealer can deny your warranty even if you don't mod your car. They know that you aren't going to actually get them into a courtroom. they will wait you out and put you off and make it so damn frustrating that you give up.
Dealers suck. I wouldn't buy cars from them if I could buy direct from the manufacturer. Here in Bama we can buy the Mercedes SUV straight from the factory for a set percentage over cost. It's very cheap and MUCH cheaper than going to the Mercedes dealer in B'ham.
in summation: STAY AWAY FROM THE DEALER DEALER = EVIL ASS INVADERS
I understand your frustration and you are correct about dealers... they do suck. One problem with this country is that when it comes to civil court, he with the most money _usually_ wins. To be honest, my P5 the first brand new car I have ever purchased. I purchased it through carsdirect.com, which was the best thing I ever did. The only thing I had to go to the dealer for was to sign papers and pick up my car. However, I think buying a new car for the warranty is a crock and I certainly never pay for an extended warranty!
I don't ever think that being educated as to what your rights are is a bad idea. Whether you actually RECEIVE those rights is a whole other story. Looks like you did get some kind of settlement from Mazda though, if I followed this thread correctly (a good thing). Of course, you didn't say how much it cost you (in time or money) and I'm not sure a straight across trade for a P5 was completely equitable.
I don't ever think that being educated as to what your rights are is a bad idea. Whether you actually RECEIVE those rights is a whole other story. Looks like you did get some kind of settlement from Mazda though, if I followed this thread correctly (a good thing). Of course, you didn't say how much it cost you (in time or money) and I'm not sure a straight across trade for a P5 was completely equitable.
Turbo Matty P
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I consider my swap from MSP to loaded P5 almost dead even. Sticker price was the exact same! I however wanted my old turbo, intercooler, and plumbing off of the MSP (since they claimed to be putting a 100% crate motor in it...yeah right!). They denied. I even offered to pay for it and they wanted like $3200 extra for it all. I told them to eat me and give me the keys. I'm happy with the P5, but as we speak I'm looking to sell it. As of a week ago I'm only $399 upside down on this car. I can sell it and buy the 93 FD3S R1 RX-7 I want. Sure it's not as pracitical, but who is going to argue over 5.9s 0-60 and a 13.6s quarter??
Turbo Matty P
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I owned one for 2 months....I got pulled over 5 times...no tickets, just harrassed. Wifey got mad....said it had to go. Luckily a friend who was moving down south just took over payments on it.
I know this is old, but I find it hard to belive that Mazda blame the motor blowing on a K&N filter and no resonator. Maybe they COULD by looking at the tire wear. Subaru dealerships do that also.
I also have a K&N drop in filter and full DP back exhaust. The dealership told me it was OK as long as I don't increase the boost and mess with the IC or vacuum lines.
I think the P5's are very nice, but the are way underpowered, IMO. Yes, I have driven them.
I also have a K&N drop in filter and full DP back exhaust. The dealership told me it was OK as long as I don't increase the boost and mess with the IC or vacuum lines.
I think the P5's are very nice, but the are way underpowered, IMO. Yes, I have driven them.
03MSPRO said:
mine isnt...
http://igdrasil.web1000.com/p5track4.wmv
http://igdrasil.web1000.com/p5track6.wmv
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Not saying dealers aren't a problem, but you might want to find a different dealer.
The local MSP dealer in Omaha, NE is pretty cool. the service manager and I talked about mods to my MSP and he pretty much spelled out what would be a problem if there was a claim; altered boost, changes to the emissions, changes to the engine's internals and that was about it.
The local MSP dealer in Omaha, NE is pretty cool. the service manager and I talked about mods to my MSP and he pretty much spelled out what would be a problem if there was a claim; altered boost, changes to the emissions, changes to the engine's internals and that was about it.
Turbo Matty P
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no K&N filter....K&N is garbage. I was very clear to specify non-K&N becuase I have seen K&N filters with excessive oiling cause MAF problems.
My dealer knew me and knew my history of racing other vehicles. The MSP was no different and they knew it.
My dealer knew me and knew my history of racing other vehicles. The MSP was no different and they knew it.
twiztedjeckel
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Turbo Matty P said:
bitches,all of em! wait till i post my 3 page manifesto that i've written to Mazda about my blown engine and turbo. maybe it'll get me somewhere,maybe it won't. only time will tell. now i've just got to get these other copies done up for the local paper,BBB and Attorney generals office.(rant)
Turbo Matty P
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the BBB won't get you far unless you're just reporting the individual dealership. The attorney generals office is a great motivator for getting their wheels turning. I had to threaten to do it here. Also, just for giggles when you contact your local newspaper find out if you can have the entire page opposite their weekly ad. Have a short (but descriptive) story of your situation. In your graphic make sure to have huge arrows pointing over to the dealers ad. Make sure the word lemon appears several times in large bold font. List a phone number for people to inquire about your problem....that number should be the direct line to the sales managers desk at the dealership!
Damn I'm a dick!!
Damn I'm a dick!!
twiztedjeckel
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my local paper and the local paper in the city where the dealership is are 2 different.
the car was 1900 miles over and 5 days short to be considered a lemon. damn the luck!
we'll see where my letters get me. its someplace to start. there's nothing saying i'll even hear anything back but its worth a shot. i don't want my car nor do i feel comfterable driving it anymore. not knowing when the car is going to make one bad ping or stumble and cambooom goes the ex-clunking orange ****.
watch them send me a coupon for a free oil change or something from my dealership. **** you very much Mazda. i'll fly out to cali and lite it on fire then s*** on it on their front door step
the car was 1900 miles over and 5 days short to be considered a lemon. damn the luck!
we'll see where my letters get me. its someplace to start. there's nothing saying i'll even hear anything back but its worth a shot. i don't want my car nor do i feel comfterable driving it anymore. not knowing when the car is going to make one bad ping or stumble and cambooom goes the ex-clunking orange ****.
watch them send me a coupon for a free oil change or something from my dealership. **** you very much Mazda. i'll fly out to cali and lite it on fire then s*** on it on their front door step
Turbo Matty P
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Just give mazda the "shocker"!! Two in the pink and 1 in the stink!!
hey, what you guys think about my warranty?
I dont have a KN filter on the intake, i just have:
Intake pipe with a BOV, then the FMIC, then another pipe, a turbo compressor then another intake pipe that holds the MAF and then a cheap ass filter.
Looks like the cheap filter is going to void my warranty isnt it?
I dont have a KN filter on the intake, i just have:
Intake pipe with a BOV, then the FMIC, then another pipe, a turbo compressor then another intake pipe that holds the MAF and then a cheap ass filter.
Looks like the cheap filter is going to void my warranty isnt it?
