Unichip or other tunable chip available?

I doubt that you guys will ever see a reflash because of how the ECU's work.. it never quite panned out on the Protege... maybe you'll get lucky because of the Focus, but I have no idea for sure...

Our product is full standalone EMS... we leave the stock ECU to control dash and interior and so forth, but we take the motor over and run direct ignition etc.

It's VERY hard to estimate gains right now because nobody has any dyno of any EMS or chip of any sort... we'll likely be the first and we should hopefully have that data and info in about 2-3 weeks.
 
TurfBurn said:
I doubt that you guys will ever see a reflash because of how the ECU's work.. it never quite panned out on the Protege... maybe you'll get lucky because of the Focus, but I have no idea for sure...

Our product is full standalone EMS... we leave the stock ECU to control dash and interior and so forth, but we take the motor over and run direct ignition etc.

It's VERY hard to estimate gains right now because nobody has any dyno of any EMS or chip of any sort... we'll likely be the first and we should hopefully have that data and info in about 2-3 weeks.
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yeah now i remember reading somewhere that you cant reflash these ecu's because they will just re-learn the factory settings again or sumthing like that.
Im very interested to see what kinda gains could be achived without going forced induction. And nevermind what those guys in florida are sayin about test cars, i live way closer and could have it there in a jiffy.lol

If you guys were the ONLY ones out there that came out with a standalone system that would be awesome for your company, especially if it was affordable.
 
PS. If during the process of the testing you manage to blow a motor or anything ive got extra parts......haha
 
mazda3zoom said:
PS. If during the process of the testing you manage to blow a motor or anything ive got extra parts......haha
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I know better than to get myself into that issue ;) LOL.
 
mazda3zoom said:
yeah now i remember reading somewhere that you cant reflash these ecu's because they will just re-learn the factory settings again or sumthing like that.
Im very interested to see what kinda gains could be achived without going forced induction. And nevermind what those guys in florida are sayin about test cars, i live way closer and could have it there in a jiffy.lol

If you guys were the ONLY ones out there that came out with a standalone system that would be awesome for your company, especially if it was affordable.
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We may manage it solely from the standpoint that Microtech is so great to work with on a professional level. Great guys and accomodating. I have an engineering degree and work as an electrical control systems design engineer by day... so I have some experience other "shops" don't ;). It'll be interesting to see what comes of it.. cost is the fighting point right now as we may need to add an igniter box to work with the ignition coils which will add another 150 bucks to the cost.. I'm trying to stay under 1400... aiming for about 1250 if I can do it.. but we'll see!! all depends on what options become "required"

Later!

Steve
 
im subbing for future news.

oh the 138mph is total BS. He has showed up many times in different threads with the same tune but once BS is called he never comes back. I would actually like ot have him prove it so we can figure out how to do the same for our cars.
 
cause you need to go 138mph in vt??? cause if you lived out in the plains/desert i would say hell yeah... (screwy)
 
TurfBurn said:
...Our product is full standalone EMS... we leave the stock ECU to control dash and interior and so forth, but we take the motor over and run direct ignition etc.

It's VERY hard to estimate gains right now because nobody has any dyno of any EMS or chip of any sort... we'll likely be the first and we should hopefully have that data and info in about 2-3 weeks.
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not fast enough!
NOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOW!(cheers)

and as already posted, you've two volunteers to test w/e you come up with
a manual and auto trans
 
A reflash and a standalone will be almost two totally different things.
Once reflashed the ECU will not relearn. They are removing the stock settings and re-writing them.

I have seen it take years to crack an ECU.

I really wish SCT would have made a flasher for the Mazda3.

If one was to come out it would own a stand alone!
No cutting of the stock wires at all. And the ability to do almost everything a standalone could do and alot more things a standalone can't. And you won't get any CELs.

Not to knock TurfBurn at all.

I don't see a flasher coming out. If from what I read is true and SCT could not crack it, I have little doubt in these other companies doing it.

So stand alones should be the way to go if they can get them to work and be user friendly.
 
Microtech is user friendly and I agree AzMz3 that a GOOD stock ECU crack is better than a standalone usually.. but often never meets the expectation and lacks the user tunability to be useful to the majority of population. You often get too locked into have a shop do the tuning and that is NOT good as many of them really aren't as good as people think. Now, you get into guys like Buschur and so forth and that's another thing of course..

the Microtech is very user friendly I think you guys will be very happy with what we are bringing when it comes... we may have hit a hitch with the test bed... so I'll let you guys know and we'll roll from there, but I'll keep everyone informed.

Thanks!

Steve
 
oh and for the guy who said he did 138 how about this.... get a friend to take a picture of your speedo and tach while you are doing 138.
 
ill see if i cant get out this weekend and do that. i do know for a fact i have been over the 118 cut off sever times, with no mods done to the car, that i know of anyways, and it has never shut down. would be interested to know if the owner before me did something tho. sorry to keep getting off topic also.
 
that's a total bs, I too own a 2.0 and I even tried ones on a downhill .. :) to do 119 and that didn't happen.
 
working on pics still. this will be my first weekend off, so gotta go find a strip of road somewhere. I starting to think that mobomelter might be right with the broken, or least speedo being off. See if i cant get some speed tho, then see what you all think.
 
TurfBurn said:
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Our standalone will run about 1200-1300 for the mazda 3 and be full timing and fuel and VVT and VICS control. So not much "missing" by that point. We'll know full details of success or failures by the end of the month obviously.

Thanks!

Steve
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it's past the end of the month man!
 
our test bed backed out becaue he had to move, and Microtech didn't finish the software development in time. We are working with them on it still and have teamed up with another company specializing in some parts for the Mazda 3 to bring this to market as soon as possible in full trim.

Thanks!

Steve
 
there just happens to be 2 testers willing to take on w/e needs to be done right here in FL, btw ;)

i got intarweb, i can email results or hell - even hook up the laptop to the ecu and send live data over teh intarweb, wireless :D
 
Definitely will keep it in mind, one thing i've found in the business is a lot of people backout or things fall through over time, so I really do keep all options open until the project is completed as I never know who or what will happen until we finish! I'm pushing hard on this becaue I know a lot of you guys really want and need this unit... so we WILL get it done and make sure it is top notch.
 
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