TurfBurn, Pro 5, Microtech base line dynos

[mokeOne]

wow, dave. i didn't know you made your own exhaust (bow)

 

[Bigg Tim]

I saw water temps get up over 215 degrees (over 99C) which I've never seen in all my beating on it on the roads.

I see those temps all the time here in AZ. It gets up around 225 in traffic, so when you do get moving and get on it, she detonates like crazy. The heat will definatly make you loose some power especially if detonating.

 

[TurfBurn]

I see those temps all the time here in AZ. It gets up around 225 in traffic, so when you do get moving and get on it, she detonates like crazy. The heat will definatly make you loose some power especially if detonating.

Yeah... I wonder how much more power I could have gotten on the dyno. I pushed the timing up until the JandS freaked out.. and then pulled it back...

I'm trying to figure out if it was my setup or what the deal was that I didn't get to the numbers MPNick has managed on his setups. I know my downpipe and my turbo manifold are both pretty small and crappy.... Also, the intercooler was completely heat soaked and the fan was not much to write home about. So all factors..

I forgot to mention previously... run on E-10 93 octane pump gas with NO octane boosters or additives of any sort.

 

[Mr. Win]

bravo... excellent.

the only thing that came in my head was you spit hot fire.

 

[BOOSTR]

Excellent numbers even with the kinks. I have to learn more about the MicroTech. I am intrigued by the "monkey" tunability. (monkey2)

 

[TurfBurn]

Excellent numbers even with the kinks. I have to learn more about the MicroTech. I am intrigued by the "monkey" tunability. (monkey2)

Any questions you have just ask. I'm happy to help at any point.

 

[ChopstickHero]

those are some of the smoothest A/F ratios i have ever seen...

nice job!

 

[Badger Biker]

Awesome stuff, Steve. Wish I could've been there!

 

[Kooldino]

Good job. Where's this thread with the VICS business? I'm very interested in this.

Also, how do you control VICS with the Microtech?

 

[TurfBurn]

Good job. Where's this thread with the VICS business? I'm very interested in this.

Also, how do you control VICS with the Microtech?

I did a run with the VICS closed and a run with VICS open. The VICS open run yielded the higher numbers by far... The default for our cars from 0 rpm's to 5200 rpm's is closed, and they open at 5200... I run mine open non stop now after the dyno. i had been running with them closed etc... but open the entire time yielded the best overall response and so forth... so that's where I am on that...

As far as controlling the VICS with the Microtech... i use the auxillary output wire to trigger a relay that then turns on or off the solenoid that passes the vacuum to the VICS actuator... so easy as pie to setup on the microtech and tell it when to open or close... but you can only set one switch point... so you either open it or close it (depending on relay configuration) at whatever RPM or boost level or whatever you want in the Microtech.

Here is the thread:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115133

 

[daedalus]

What kind of Injectors are you guys running? I need upgraded injectors (was gonna do 440's) but are 550's the better alternative? Any part numbers, distributors, web sites would be helpful. Any modifications to the injectors to get them to fit???? Thanks.

 

[TurfBurn]

What kind of Injectors are you guys running? I need upgraded injectors (was gonna do 440's) but are 550's the better alternative? Any part numbers, distributors, web sites would be helpful. Any modifications to the injectors to get them to fit???? Thanks.

What Dave and I have you can't really get anymore... so don't worry about that.. but RC Engineering has 550's available.. and apparently you can get the 550CC injectors from the 2003 Mustang GT to work out ok with some rail spacers.

 

[duMb KeoLa]

well wheres the new dyno numbers? we need to see MORE!!!!

 

[rx7mazda]

I have a Microtech for my RX-7, and I beg to differ... I know nothing about tuning. I think I am more afraid of throwing off a map and blowing the motor than anything else =/

 

[TurfBurn]

I have a Microtech for my RX-7, and I beg to differ... I know nothing about tuning. I think I am more afraid of throwing off a map and blowing the motor than anything else =/

You've also never talked to me or had me teach you how the whole system works... Part of the package with us is the education, the support, and the answering of questions. Ask any guy that has a Microtech from us, and see if they have EVER had any problem getting a question answered or have had me not explain something clearly to them... ask about the manuals we provide with the EMS and how clear we make things. Keola, Dave, Twilight, others... none of them had ever tuned at all... now they are completely comfortable making their own changes because they know what is going on... the system is simple enough that the education is easy to come by, and the system is easy to understand so you can be comfortable..

I don't know rotaries worth a dang... so unfortunately from that standpoint I'm not much help though .

 

[twilightprotege]

yes, steve rocks with the help!

 

[rx7mazda]

I wish i bought my ecu through you, because the tech support from atkins rotary sucked

 

[TurfBurn]

I wish i bought my ecu through you, because the tech support from atkins rotary sucked

Well, I'll try and get a rough education on rotaries.... but what I can do is send you a copy of our "tuning tutorial" document which carefully explains each of the individual features on the Microtech (their manual isn't very good at explaining them) and hopefully that will give you at least some minor improvement... I'm working on expanding the document anyway.. it's about 5 or 6 pages now... it'll probably be around 20 when filled out all the way... it just goes over the principals of what you are trying to do, what AFR's are best (on a 4cyl) and so forth... it helps make it easy to understand what your adjustments on the maps do and where that gets you in the end. Where I'm not going to be a lot of help is a few of the rotary functions, and what AFR's and methods and timing is best for a rotary. I know you guys run a lot richer than a cylinder car, and the timing is considerably different, but that's all I've got for general knowledge on that one!

Later,

Steve

 

[TurfBurn]

I wish i bought my ecu through you, because the tech support from atkins rotary sucked

Well, I'll try and get a rough education on rotaries.... but what I can do is send you a copy of our "tuning tutorial" document which carefully explains each of the individual features on the Microtech (their manual isn't very good at explaining them) and hopefully that will give you at least some minor improvement... I'm working on expanding the document anyway.. it's about 5 or 6 pages now... it'll probably be around 20 when filled out all the way... it just goes over the principals of what you are trying to do, what AFR's are best (on a 4cyl) and so forth... it helps make it easy to understand what your adjustments on the maps do and where that gets you in the end. Where I'm not going to be a lot of help is a few of the rotary functions, and what AFR's and methods and timing is best for a rotary. I know you guys run a lot richer than a cylinder car, and the timing is considerably different, but that's all I've got for general knowledge on that one!

Later,

Steve

 

[rx7mazda]

Well, I'll try and get a rough education on rotaries.... but what I can do is send you a copy of our "tuning tutorial" document which carefully explains each of the individual features on the Microtech (their manual isn't very good at explaining them) and hopefully that will give you at least some minor improvement... I'm working on expanding the document anyway.. it's about 5 or 6 pages now... it'll probably be around 20 when filled out all the way... it just goes over the principals of what you are trying to do, what AFR's are best (on a 4cyl) and so forth... it helps make it easy to understand what your adjustments on the maps do and where that gets you in the end. Where I'm not going to be a lot of help is a few of the rotary functions, and what AFR's and methods and timing is best for a rotary. I know you guys run a lot richer than a cylinder car, and the timing is considerably different, but that's all I've got for general knowledge on that one!

Later,

Steve

Running a lot richer... try 10mpg (pow). I know with the setup I have, I am capable of the low 20mpg range. I've sent it to 3 tuning places, and they all didn't do a great job, so I guess it will be up to myself to get it the way I want it. As for the document you are writing, that would be awesome if you could let me have a copy of it. (rockon)