Turboxs BOV installed--Pics inside!

Easy old fellow, actually this BOV was produced and tested specifically for this car, so the engine would not run rich, backfire, foul plugs or shorten the life of the Catalytic converter.

My only problem with this thread is that if your going to make statements like the one listed above, you better bring some good data to prove it.

Actual Air/Fuel Readings using a wide band 02 of the car before and after your mod.

I think its misleading to make these claims with no data.


I do like when new ideas are presented and attempted. I hope it does work out in the long run.
 
Afroman said:
My only problem with this thread is that if your going to make statements like the one listed above, you better bring some good data to prove it.

Actual Air/Fuel Readings using a wide band 02 of the car before and after your mod.

I think its misleading to make these claims with no data.


I do like when new ideas are presented and attempted. I hope it does work out in the long run.

Yeah I hope it continues to run well too. These guys seem very knowledgeable and their products are well built (to what I've seen so far). If I had more data I would definitely share it. I just wanted people to be aware that Turboxs made a BOV specifically for the MS3 and it seem to be working great (drinks)
 
there is no need to bring data... this has been proven time and time again on EVERY car that has a maf before the turbo...its just the truth deal with it.
if you are happy with it great, but you are rich between shifts.
understand what a maf does and how it works and you will get it.
 
Mspeed3 said:
knocking VTA's is getting old on this forum. If you want a quiet set up run the stock piece. Recirc is ok, but VTA sounds cool and if you tune your car with a FMU like XEDE than the MAF isn't a big deal. By the way u run rich for a fraction of a second between shifts. There is no mechanical damage that will come from a VTA. So lets keep the posts positive. I'd like to know what people's knowledge on turbo systems consists of making these comments. I'd be glad to talk about it, since I've grown up working on turbo cars with my dad at his shop.
Running rich could lead to cyl wash out or even worse, lifting the head. Remeber we are not dealing with 58 PSI of fule pressure here and a little could really be a lot on the MS3.

Best choice (my opinion). The Turbosmart recirc/vent to atmos. It works normal under low boost and when you get into high boost you end up with a combo vent, both recirc and atmos dump. Its really the best of both worlds.
 
tru-boost said:
there is no need to bring data... this has been proven time and time again on EVERY car that has a maf before the turbo...its just the truth deal with it.
if you are happy with it great, but you are rich between shifts.
understand what a maf does and how it works and you will get it.
I believe that it can be tuned out with a fuel controller of some sort. We have done it on several turboed 240's and even a few GM's as well. Its all in the tune but for this car its going to take an autotune feature to keep the AFR's clean and keep the ECU happy between shifts. I will check to see if a FMIC mounted BOV will make a change on that rich shift. The further away from the MAF the less it affects it.
 
ptperformance said:
Best choice (my opinion). The Turbosmart recirc/vent to atmos. It works normal under low boost and when you get into high boost you end up with a combo vent, both recirc and atmos dump. Its really the best of both worlds.

Guessing you didn't read the initial post. This BOV does the same thing, it runs in recirculation mode and VTA, thats why I got it. It was made specifically for the MS3 and built accordingly. I agree that it wouldn't be the best choice to get a BOV that ran strictly in VTA mode on this car.

07 MS3 - True Red - Turboxs Hybrid BOV - Turboxs Race Pipe - MS CAI on the way!
RIP: 03 LS 350z - Injen Super SES - MSR 088's
 
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My only question is what the hell did your friend do to his front valence on his 20th??? Looks like he cut it or something.
 
dcomiskey said:
My only question is what the hell did your friend do to his front valence on his 20th??? Looks like he cut it or something.

(rofl2) You are the first to notice. He has some tire tread from the interstate to thank for that. He was trapped and couldn't dodge it and it completely took that little piece off. He wasn't too happy.

07 MS3 - True Red - Turboxs Hybrid BOV - Turboxs Race Pipe - MS CAI on the way!
RIP: 03 LS 350z - Injen Super SES - MSR 088's
 
MS3TR said:
(rofl2) You are the first to notice. He has some tire tread from the interstate to thank for that. He was trapped and couldn't dodge it and it completely took that little piece off. He wasn't too happy.

07 MS3 - True Red - Turboxs Hybrid BOV - Turboxs Race Pipe - MS CAI on the way!
RIP: 03 LS 350z - Injen Super SES - MSR 088's

Oh, OK. I thought he was trying to Wings West his car or something stupid. :D
 
i love the sound of that bov. it would be cool if you could get vids of you and your friends gti so i could hear the difference in sound between the turboxs and hks. props to you again
 
Rotus8 said:
So, let me try to understand. You spent good money and time to make your car run worse, get worse gas milage, shorten the life of your catalyst, and sound funny.
Nope, I don't get it. Maybe I am just too old to understand.

Why don't you make a cd from the sound track of F&F and just play that while you are driving?


I know this is old, but that the most funniest crap I ever heard in my life.
 
I am running the TXS hybrid BOV on my CX7. Works great. The factory BOV is reported to leak at high boost but I cannot confirm this. Hybrid BOV's have no performance advantage over a full recirculating BOV. However, they partially vent to atmosphere of full boost blow offs. Gives the sound without the driveability issues of 100% VTA. The only complaints that I have is the following:
1. This BOV wasn't meant for the CX7 even though the motor is the same as the MS3 and MS6. The vacuum line hits the TMIC engine cover (the CX7 TMIC air ducting is incorporated into the engine cover unlike the MS3 and MS6). So I had to Dremel a notch in the cover.
2. The BOV flutters with low boost blow offs. This is a TXS trait. I've seen with many other applications of TXS BOV's. It's just noise and does not affect the turbo - it's not compressor surge.
 
tru-boost said:
if it vents any metered air you are not running at an optimum level. just because it doesnt pop or stall out doesnt make it good....just good enough.
why do turbo race cars run VTA....simple they dont use mass air meters, or the meter is on the other side of the turbo. you will still run richer than normal between shifts, it is impossible to vent any air to the atmosphere and not have this happen. the best way to go is a good BOV run in recirc with a CAI. sorry to knock your mod dude, but i dont recommend this at all.

How does a BOV run in recirc and not in VTA? I thought all BOV were made to VTA, and anything that recircs would be considered a BPV?
 
Technically speaking, BOV vents and BPV recircs. It's just symantics. People (myself included) tend to refer to both BOVs and BPVs as "BOVs". Some people refer to BPVs as DVs as well (diverter valves).
 
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