turboing on stock parts.

[ForBidden]

ok i got a turbo kit on the way i bought it from a fellow member on here every thing should run fine on 8lbs boost right?? like injectors and fule pump

every thing im buying from the guy

Garrett T3 AR.42 turbine no play. with oil line
PWR fmic 24x10x3
Spool manifold
Greddy type S bov with flange and pipe. very loud
Turbonetics Mark 2 Deltagate wastegate on pipe
NEW fmic 20x10x3
Apex SAFC with wiring harness

im paying 1600 and im getting the ic pipeing to am i getting riped and is there any thing elece i need?

 

[B1GHAM]

I would also try to pick up a used/new MSP ECU...

 

[ForBidden]

why would u recomend that? does the mp3 ecu not hold the boost well or what isnt that what the safc is for?

 

[mikeski]

or just get the flyin miata voltage clamp, and maybe an fmu

 

[Kansei]

SAFCs don't work with our cars.. the ECU will just learn around it. At bare minimum you need an MSP ECU, preferably some sort of tunable ECU since you won't be running the same turbo, manifold, or anything from the MSP kit.

That's not a bad price at all though, especially with two FMICs.

 

[Kansei]

why would u recomend that? does the mp3 ecu not hold the boost well or what isnt that what the safc is for?

The MP3 ECU is bad for turbo because it advances the timing which increases compression. Add a turbo on top of that and kaboom.

You'd be better off with a Protege5 ECU with a voltage clamp and FMU. Protege5 ECUs can be had for cheap usually.. especially from a junkyard.

 

[ForBidden]

so what all do i need to be in the safe zone????

 

[shane02pro5]

MP3 has advanced timing that will cause detonation and BOOM at a lower psi than the msp ecu will. Pretty sure the S-AFC has not been successful with Protege's, something about the stock ECU will eventually learn around it.

 

[ForBidden]

just list waht i need for to be safe this is gonan be my daily drive for a while till i get enough money to by a cheep car later on.

 

[Kansei]

Do you want to do it the right ($$$) way first or just get up and running safely at low boost for now and upgrade to better engine management later?

I'd recommend the FMU and voltage clamp setup if you just want to get started and run like 5psi, but a full standalone like a Microtech if you wanted to do it the right way from the start.

 

[ForBidden]

well i have 3700 to spend but i want to spend 2grand right now i want it safe and cheep for 2g lol what would u guys recomend i havent bought that kit yet.

 

[Kansei]

When you find out let me know

for 2g it looks like the only way to go is MSP ECU (which I have myself.. and would recommend if you were going for a basically MSP turbo kit, but you're stuff is all different) or the FMU and voltage clamp setup. For low boost, the FMU and voltage clamp will work.

I'd tell the guy to keep the SAFC and maybe lower the price a bit. That would give you money for gauges and such that you'll need.

 

[Black_Protege_5]

The SAFC does not work with our throttle body position sensor(TPS). Go with Mircrotech or haltek for your set-up. Or a P5 ECU with an MPI tuner. I don't really care for FMU's and voltage clamps. They do their job but not in a proper sufficient way. You tend to run pig rich and you don't get the best A/F ratios. And 8psi is also on the verge of maxing the fmu. You will be happy with a stand alone or a really good piggyback.

Also you will have to do some cutting to fit that intercooler. The max we can go with no moditication is around 24*6*3 and that is a tight fit.

I also see that you don't have any sort of wideband listed which is a must.

Check out and read the forced induction forum. I think you still need to do a lot of research on this car so you can fully understand what needs to be done.

 

[ForBidden]

im use to neons were u could slap it on and drive lol technolgly has gotten more adv from 95 to 2006 lol can i do this for 2g or not?

 

[Kansei]

Yeah our ECUs aren't the most user-friendly you can do it for 2g if you buy used parts and go with an FMU and voltage clamp.

I wouldn't run more than 5psi though..

 

[jamesk]

i have a mp5 ecu. if you want we can trade?

 

[ForBidden]

i would but if i pull my ecu i have nothing to drive

 

[Jeph]

I have a FMU for sale if thats the route you decide to go

 

[ForBidden]

actuly how about i buy your whole ******* kit? can we make a deal on it?