To Flash or not to Flash?

[Mike (Hermosa)]

I pretty familiar to A/F Ratios but, if I've got plans to upgrade and yank up the boost, is it better to leave the car as is rather than "flash" it? I'd rather start with a rich setting. (Duh) I'm looking to get the most out of the stock turbo system. I'll do plugs, intercooler, CAI, exhaust and downpipe, but mostly extra boost. And if I have to larger injectors. Basically till it starts to ping on race gas (100 octane). Just wanted to get a feel from people who've done both flashed cars and non flashed cars with mods.
Thanks for the help.

Mike

I've done lots of searching and thinking about what I want, but I wanted to hear some other ideas if guys could. Thanks

 

[03MSP]

Flash

 

[t3ase]

I've used both the unflashed and flash ECU on my car and I'm back to the unflashed. Love it.

 

[mspdfreak]

Flash.

 

[t3ase]

Depends on what kinda boost you wanna play with. If you're going to stay "safe" and keep it <10, get the flash. If you're planning on going above that, don't.

 

[girth]

I'm flashed and based on your plans I'd recommend NOT flashing if I was you. The flash didn't do much for me.

 

[tddelsol]

carank it up till you get ping on 100 well if tuned right thats above 22 psi cause joe was around there for a while

 

[DSM2MSP]

Could you guys reiterate about the flash "sticker" if the flash was performed on the car or not?

Also, would you recommend the Joe P FPR on an unflashed ecu?

 

[Mike (Hermosa)]

Remember you're talking to a guy who runs 20psi on stock turbos on my Z with no ECU upgrade. I look to get the most out of what I have and go from there.
Thanks
M

 

[t3ase]

Could you guys reiterate about the flash "sticker" if the flash was performed on the car or not?

Also, would you recommend the Joe P FPR on an unflashed ecu?

Wow. Where's my beat a dead horse pic? *looks for it*

 

[Togan]

flash

 

[DSM2MSP]

Wow. Where's my beat a dead horse pic? *looks for it*

Wow thanks for contributing nothing useful to this thread....and your a moderator?

How does the guy know his cars ecu isnt already flashed? It is a 2003.5 is it not?

Maybe if he knew about the Joe P FPR it might change his mind about getting the flash.

 

[I'm Allen]

Don't flash!

 

[t3ase]

Wow thanks for contributing nothing useful to this thread....and your a moderator?

How does the guy know his cars ecu isnt already flashed? It is a 2003.5 is it not?

Maybe if he knew about the Joe P FPR it might change his mind about getting the flash.

*search*

 

[t3ase]

Wow thanks for contributing nothing useful to this thread....and your a moderator?

How does the guy know his cars ecu isnt already flashed? It is a 2003.5 is it not?

Maybe if he knew about the Joe P FPR it might change his mind about getting the flash.

And actually, *YOU* were asking the question for your own purpose, not to help him. You should know better. And if you read the thread, you'd see I did contribute. You have just been owned.

 

[Horse]

How does the guy know his cars ecu isnt already flashed? It is a 2003.5 is it not?

(thought) Go to the dealer and have them do a VIN check - any outstanding TSB's and recalls will be listed. Also if any work was done to the car at a dealer it should be recorded too.

lets think a second before we post. (uhm) mabey his car is Ti? Wow - I know a TON of 2003's that came in Ti--

(hand)

 

[t3ase]

How does the guy know his cars ecu isnt already flashed? It is a 2003.5 is it not?

(thought) Go to the dealer and have them do a VIN check - any outstanding TSB's and recalls will be listed. Also if any work was done to the car at a dealer it should be recorded too.

lets think a second before we post. (uhm)

straight from the horse's mouth.

HARHARHHARHRHARHHARHARHRHRHHARHAH&!@%$!^%@$!&^@$!*&@$*!^@%!$#^@!$#(!*@#*!%.

I'm done.

 

[KyRaceFan]

http://www.msprotege.com/vbb230/showthread.php?t=54631&page=1


Dyno curve from a recently flashed MSP.
Proves the a/f isnt touched.