Thunder Turbo Mani vs SteedSpeed Mani

[steedspeed]

I'd be interested to see the difference in power with my latest design. I never did get a diffinitive answer other than that the cars run much better than stock with my manifold. Some customers have switched to my manifold after having the Thunder manifold but I've never seen any dyno charts to show the result.

I do know that you can beat a tubular manifold flat with my manifold and still install the Steed Speed when you are done lol!

 

[StealthWyvern]

I'd be interested to see the difference in power with my latest design. I never did get a diffinitive answer other than that the cars run much better than stock with my manifold. Some customers have switched to my manifold after having the Thunder manifold but I've never seen any dyno charts to show the result.

I do know that you can beat a tubular manifold flat with my manifold and still install the Steed Speed when you are done lol!

lmao to funny

Edit: We need video of this! lol

 

[MS3_KIDD]

the thunder didnt brake the bank and thats why i went with it

if i had hit the lottery b4 buying the mani i might have picked up the steed
but since i did i am very happy with the thunder and will be installing it this weekend

 

[43975]

No doubt the SteedSpeed is the Brute of the two, That is one thing no one can ever argue.
But if I can make 5 HP more for $200 less....I'll just keep the anvils away from the mani!!!

 

[steedspeed]

No doubt the SteedSpeed is the Brute of the two, That is one thing no one can ever argue.
But if I can make 5 HP more for $200 less....I'll just keep the anvils away from the mani!!!

Do you know what the increase is with a Thunder?

 

[bradboyd80]

I don't have either, but imo, I'd rather have quality. Why buy something that has even a remote possibility of having problems, when you could spend that extra 200 and know for a fact you'll never have to worry about it? I'll be saving up for the steedspeed.

 

[Outlawstar98]

firs thing first people, theres not much different of HP most likely at stock boost. just cause well.. its 6 fricken PSI, its sad.the majority of the gain would be at higher boost, It is really hard to make good power off of 6 psi on a turbomani.

 

[lexus806]

firs thing first people, theres not much different of HP most likely at stock boost. just cause well.. its 6 fricken PSI, its sad.the majority of the gain would be at higher boost, It is really hard to make good power off of 6 psi on a turbomani.

combined with 626 intake mani, cold air intake, new smic, hard piping, midpipe and down pipe theres no increase? for people not wanting to up the boost and blow s*** up, why the **** buy it then? im just sayin, more and more i hear about it, its like ****** forget it then. for something that cost 600 bucks it better ****** do something(combined with all the parts and mods i listed above) other than look good.

 

[lexus806]

im not even mad really, its just people seem to talk s*** about the ones that want thunder like "quit being cheap". theres people that are posting saying they havent had any problems with the thunder. this thread was just to see what the difference in power if any that there was. if theres not, than close thread.

 

[FLAMSP]

well... first off it is made out of steel and wont crack, unlike the iron s*** stock one, I am certain there is a slight increase but would need a dyno to confirm that. Second it comes heat coated, not sure why but supposedly you will void the warranty if you coat the thunder manifold. Really when i comes down to it, i think (warning opinion -->) the SteedSpeed is a better manifold.

If the stock one is not cracked then why waste money.

My mani is cracked and well... i cant afford 400 or 600 so a new stock+coated is what im going.

 

[steedspeed]

something that cost 600 bucks it better ****** do something(combined with all the parts and mods i listed above) other than look good.

They do! Power is much better than stock and I fully expect it to be better than the Thunder too.

You realise the price includes ceramic coat and shipping right?

 

[43975]

Do you know what the increase is with a Thunder?

No I don't know what numbers the thunder makes...and I'm not taking any sides either....All I and the rest on this thread want to know is which one makes better power. That's it. We all know which one is beefier and which one looks better. But which one actually performs better? Thunder v1 cracks we all know that....Thunder v2 no one has yet to crack. as of today neither the V2 or the SteedSpeed have cracked.... So which one makes better power.

I think that was the whole reason this thread was started in the first place.

 

[jmv]

I definitely felt like i had an improvement even at stock boost, granted that was over a cracked stocker. And there was even more improvement at higher boost... but my higher boost is only about 8 or 9 psi.

Also, sure having dynos would be swell, but i think its a lot to expect that someones going to buy both manifolds (or even just one) and dyno it stock/aftermarket, at whatever different boost levels people are looking for, etc... even then someone won't be happy with it. buy one or don't but the thread is full of people that are supporting one manifold or the other.

Oh and FLAMSP, my dealership quoted me $900 for a new stock mani... i know thats the stealership but it seems amazing you can get a new stocker and coat it for less than $400 when i was quoted $900 just for the part...

EDIT: and also keep in mind, a year or two ago there really weren't any options for an exhuast manifold, except a few people who managed to get a MAM manifold. We're really lucky to have these two options, even if we don't have a direct comparison on which is 'better'. I hope bickering over this doesn't drive away the two great vendors who are actually supplying parts for a low production car that they haven't made for 5 years...

 

[FLAMSP]

Buying a used stock manifold without any cracks, thats what i meant by new (mine is craked in three spots...). I also called the local stealership and was quoted
$1600, for real they said $1600, i laughed and hung-up. If i had the money i would for sure 100% get the steed, again just my "2 pennies"

 

[43975]

I'm Definatly not trying to bicker and I do appeciate both vendors for their contributions. It would just be nice to see some comparison numbers that's all. I personally am the type to read a consumer reports mag when buying a toaster lol. Although I started not trusting them after that Suzuki Samurai scam!!! but that's a whole nother topic. I <3 suzuki samurai's

 

[MS3_KIDD]

not sure why but supposedly you will void the warranty if you coat the thunder manifold.

i think its cuz if you get it coated and it cracks it would need to be stripped to be repaired and then the owner would be upset that they got it back stripped and want to have it coated again and so on

just what i think lol

 

[jmv]

i think its cuz if you get it coated and it cracks it would need to be stripped to be repaired and then the owner would be upset that they got it back stripped and want to have it coated again and so on

just what i think lol

i THINK, but not positive, i remember reading it was because ceramic coating makes the part hold in more heat, instead of letting it radiate to the engine bay, and the extra heat put more stress on the welds. Just what i recall, not sure who said that in the first place.

 

[MS3_KIDD]

i THINK, but not positive, i remember reading it was because ceramic coating makes the part hold in more heat, instead of letting it radiate to the engine bay, and the extra heat put more stress on the welds. Just what i recall, not sure who said that in the first place.

that would be a good reason too lol

 

[FLAMSP]

^^ both good points, I wonder if thermal wrap would be ok... meaning it would not localize heat and cause cracks in the welds of the mani?

 

[jeffmsp]

meet with a guy tonight from toprotege.com he said he has owned both the v1 and v2 and well to put it nice, he says they are easily broken...and something about wanting to take his nice new steedspeed manifold and smash his v2 with it. maybe he got one from a bad batch, maybe they are all junk i dunno.