The facts about a product. No myths or stories.
The rebuttle to the myth:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123734086
When one makes a thread about another company’s product and then locks it, this tells you they do not want the truth coming out. The fact of the matter is Medievals new rear motor mount was designed to be more affordable for the masses. So let’s get down to business and put out facts on their new motor mount and kill the rumor mill now.
Medievals new rear motor mount does in fact look very similar to the TRZ at first glance. When designing a motor mount you are limited in some aspects. Bolt center lines and locations limit you. With that being said, there are only a few ways to skin a cat and
there are differences.
1st, bushing material. Medieval uses a CUSTOM hot pour urethane and not an off the shelf cold pour Energy Suspension bushing. Medieval's bushing is not a standard hot pour. It has a few extra ingredients that give it added strength and a higher heat range. A standard hot pour system is 35% stronger in shear and has 20% higher heat range. Medieval's system is 15% stronger in shear than a standard hot pour and 17% higher heat range than a standard hot pour. Has Medieval ever had a bushing failure, NO! Medieval has not had a bushing failure and if one does arise, They WILL warranty it regardless and I mean regardless. It doesn’t matter if you used the motor mount to defend off a burglar or a UFO shot it with a laser gun, They WILL warranty it period. Next is size of bushing. Medieval's bushing is 2.5 times larger than the TRZ bushing. More material means more harmonic control. The smaller the bushing you go the more NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) you will have. These pictures are of the size bushing they use and the size TRZ uses. You make up your mind on which one is smaller. Now, let’s talk about axial movement. The smaller bushing has a max movement of .270 while the larger bushing has .388. The difference is .122. This translates that the larger bushing can allow the motor to move almost 1/8” more than the smaller one. That is right, almost an 1/8”. Now, here is where we will shine, the larger bushing will transfer 50% less NVH than the smaller bushing. Sometimes smaller isn’t better.
2nd, Mount Neck. To make a claim our neck is thinner without ever having one in your hand to cut apart is something a used car salesmen does to keep sales on his lot. The FACT is, I use 3/16 thick material.
3rd The nut. They did not put on a welded nut for a few reasons. They instead opted to use a shelf locking nut. The idea is shelf locking will not come loose. A welded nut that is not self locking is nothing more than a nut welded on. The bolt can still back out. The other idea is longevity. A welded nut is secure to the part. If you cross thread or if the nut starts to corrode the part is worthless because you can not secure it. If you cross thread or the nut corrodes on theirs, you simply add a new nut and reinstall. Sometimes knowing is better than believing.
Don’t fall for the myth. Know the facts!
The rebuttle to the myth:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123734086
When one makes a thread about another company’s product and then locks it, this tells you they do not want the truth coming out. The fact of the matter is Medievals new rear motor mount was designed to be more affordable for the masses. So let’s get down to business and put out facts on their new motor mount and kill the rumor mill now.
Medievals new rear motor mount does in fact look very similar to the TRZ at first glance. When designing a motor mount you are limited in some aspects. Bolt center lines and locations limit you. With that being said, there are only a few ways to skin a cat and
there are differences.
1st, bushing material. Medieval uses a CUSTOM hot pour urethane and not an off the shelf cold pour Energy Suspension bushing. Medieval's bushing is not a standard hot pour. It has a few extra ingredients that give it added strength and a higher heat range. A standard hot pour system is 35% stronger in shear and has 20% higher heat range. Medieval's system is 15% stronger in shear than a standard hot pour and 17% higher heat range than a standard hot pour. Has Medieval ever had a bushing failure, NO! Medieval has not had a bushing failure and if one does arise, They WILL warranty it regardless and I mean regardless. It doesn’t matter if you used the motor mount to defend off a burglar or a UFO shot it with a laser gun, They WILL warranty it period. Next is size of bushing. Medieval's bushing is 2.5 times larger than the TRZ bushing. More material means more harmonic control. The smaller the bushing you go the more NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) you will have. These pictures are of the size bushing they use and the size TRZ uses. You make up your mind on which one is smaller. Now, let’s talk about axial movement. The smaller bushing has a max movement of .270 while the larger bushing has .388. The difference is .122. This translates that the larger bushing can allow the motor to move almost 1/8” more than the smaller one. That is right, almost an 1/8”. Now, here is where we will shine, the larger bushing will transfer 50% less NVH than the smaller bushing. Sometimes smaller isn’t better.
2nd, Mount Neck. To make a claim our neck is thinner without ever having one in your hand to cut apart is something a used car salesmen does to keep sales on his lot. The FACT is, I use 3/16 thick material.
3rd The nut. They did not put on a welded nut for a few reasons. They instead opted to use a shelf locking nut. The idea is shelf locking will not come loose. A welded nut that is not self locking is nothing more than a nut welded on. The bolt can still back out. The other idea is longevity. A welded nut is secure to the part. If you cross thread or if the nut starts to corrode the part is worthless because you can not secure it. If you cross thread or the nut corrodes on theirs, you simply add a new nut and reinstall. Sometimes knowing is better than believing.
Don’t fall for the myth. Know the facts!
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