The Ohio Random Thread... aka We Should Probably Be Working

loll. i do whatever the **** i want now!

hahaha

i need to take yall for rides though...
 
oh mah bad, for some reason I thought you were one of the guys that met us at the stake house (oops)

Ah yes, the steakhouse. We were there (briefly). We weren't at the Mitty itself tho.

aMaff, weren't you just being very blase about childrens safety seats when Rachelle was trying to help you out? Now you know everything about hearing protection? Is there anything you don't know? (rolleyes)
Yep, the guy talking about spending a little extra dough on NCAP rated seats designed with features specifically to work forward facing down to 20 lbs (both of ours are heavier) was the one being totally blase. You got me (rolleyes).

And thanks to the internet, there isn't anything I don't know. It's great!

If you can't see any difference between the new recommendations on when to (which just changed this year...), or not to switch them to front facing and noise that will permanently damage hearing, I can't help you dude.
 
Giant Eagle's gas sucks? I pretty much only use them since I have the "Fuel Perks". I've been using them for about 4 years now. (scratch)

Best tank of 93 from Sunoco: 310 miles (filling up after using 3/4), best tank of 93 from GE: 250 miles... the fuel perks give you a small discount, but not really worth 60 miles (on average), it tells me the engine wasn't running the same.

I've been getting 31 average mixed driving, with lots of flogging using GE gas exclusively because of the perks. There's a oil company in my town that sells 100% pure gasoline with no fillers, and I plan to go there exclusively after the ZE, but until then, I don't really care.

Yeah... that's up there as far as ignorant things I've read on the internet recently. And I've read some ignorant stuff on the internet recently.

Just re-reading some of your own posts? :D
 
when I had the 3, sometimes i babied it to save gas since I was driving so much (I tried, really...). Best tank of 93 from Sunoco: 310 miles (filling up after using 3/4), best tank of 93 from GE: 250 miles... the fuel perks give you a small discount, but not really worth 60 miles (on average), it tells me the engine wasn't running the same. Went back to Sunoco, started getting better mileage right away.

those miles were the best I could get over a month of driving

I use 91 and I can get 300 miles out of a tank pretty easily. Of my 80 mile trip to and from work about 76 of them are on the highway though.
 
I have read a couple aticles saying that NA cars that run on 93 do so for the performance/gas milage. You can run a lower grade, but you might not get the same mpg. Your car is using more fuel to get more power on a lower grade. I know I always put 93 in the MSP , but if I don't put 93 in the dirty bird you can majorly tell the difference in power.

I miss you guys too (no homo, refering to Evan comment a couple pages ago). I can't wait unil spring. My tires are so bald right now. I ran the Dunlop Grasspics all summer just to burn them out since I didn't plan on running the MSP in the winter and buying a beat, but when I lost my previous job and fell a little behind I bills I kinda F'ed myself for the whole tire situation for this winter. They look pretty close to my Falkens hat I arn this last year for SCCA. Man they handle great in slush and these little dusting we're getting :( FAIL!
 
^ You're right. It can also cause the cars ECU to retard the timing if the car has VVT or pinging in the case of a car like a Miata with advanced timing.
 
I didn't think that octane was a big deal in the winter as it is my understanding the fuel is some how whored-up for the colder temps. I was always told that a higher grade is better for summer use because it would help prevent pinging. Maybe I should consider going to the mid-grade?
 
i have 89 in my tank right now and can tell almost no difference from 87. however when i fill up with 91 or 93 its quite obvious
 
Performance or mileage wise? I am more interested in mileage gain, although performance is a good thing.
 
both, i have a mp3 reflashed ecu, and with premium i picked up that extra 10 hp that the ecu gives you, and i picked up close to 4 mpg.
 
So it is win.

edit: After reading that article it seems as though a little test is in order. Or did I miss something in it?
 
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you guys DO realize the difference in the numbers for gas is their resistance to combust, not how high/good a grade is, correct??




http://livecheap.com/automotive/maintain/517-does-high-octane-gas-improve-gas-mileage

With gasoline hovering around three bucks a gallon, the price difference between Regular and Premium grades of unleaded has become just a few percent. Back when gas was a buck, that 10 cent difference would add 10 percent to your total. Somehow the difference still is 10 cents which means at $3 a gallon, its a mere 3% to trade up. So if you get just one mile per gallon better gas mileage, then getting the more expensive gas makes it the cheaper option. So we wanted to know, is paying more for higher grades of gas worth the extra money?

The short answer is no. The higher grades of gasoline get you absolutely no better gas mileage for the average car. Most cars are made for 87 octane gas. The only time you might do better is if your car was designed for higher octane gasoline. Your car will run worse if you use an octane level that is lower than recommended. So if your car is designed to run on 89 octane gas, buying regular 87 unleaded gasoline will get you worse gas mileage, but upgrading to 91 or 93 won't get you any more miles per gallon than buying the mid grade at 89.

So what is an octane rating anyway? Probably 5% of the car drivers out there actually have a clue about what an octane rating is, so if you keep reading this article, you'll join an elite club. Simply put, the octane rating is a measure of the gasoline's resistance to combustion. Higher octane gas requires more energy for it to explode. Higher octane gas also has lower levels of "knocking" which is what happens when gas explodes too quickly in the combustion process. If you took the pure hydrocarbon octane and measured it, it would get a rating of 100.... a perfect score. Gasoline is a mixture of hydrocarbons and hence has a lower than 100 score. The lower the score, the easier it is to combust, the earlier in the combustion cycle it explodes, and the more prone it is to knocking. Now you know why if your car knocks (which is a problem that can lead to engine damage), people will recommend a higher octane gasoline.

So unless you are driving something like an Aston Martin DB7 Volante with a high compression engine that requires 93 octane, you are probably just wasting your money. Take a minute, open your glove box, and read your owner's manual to find out what's recommended. If you've been buying higher octane than you need, you can stop it and spend the $75 to $150 on a nice meal or two.
 
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