The Ohio Random Thread... aka We Should Probably Be Working
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PrinceValorum
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It's all in the tune. I've read it a zillion times.
Ya, what's your point? lol
Even keeping power output equal... Less lag, lower boost levels, better bottom end & overall driveability, better oil delivery system, all around better engineering, better aftermarket support... Need I go on?
Oh, and the ability to add stand alone, increase the redline and go crazy is always nice, too. Even if I don't go wylin out with it, it's nice to know that it's a motor that was designed to go big and then Mazda reeled it in... The fs-de is the complete opposite.
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Rockin03mp5
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does everyone in ohio just want to find a KL... take it out to dinner, a movie, and then bring it back home to have sex with it?
PrinceValorum
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On VW's new Touareg SUV, the TDI option is 3k$, which seems fair. The gas/electric hybrid option tacks on 15 thousand dollars... That should be a real hit..
PrinceValorum
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Yes, but dinner and movie are optional
You forgot the part involving salad tossing. (2thumbs)
Honestly, I'm fairly positive I will save money both in the immediate and the long term, by removing the fs. Aside from any performance and reliability concerns. So it's virtually a no-brainer.
It's just a shame how long I am going to have to wait til I can really dive into the project.
O, and my KMR underbody braces arrived today. v-brace, ladder bar, lower tie bar are apparently sitting at my front door waiting for me right now.
Meh, the FS-DE's aren't THAT unreliable. I had mine up to about 215 whp and my only problem was constant oil burning, which happens regardless if you're making power or not. I had plans to push the stock motor a little further: 505zoom IM, 12 psi, 440cc injectors, water/methanol injection, full 3" exhaust, Splitsecond FTC, etc. Who knows how far I could have gotten but I was fairly certain with the larger injectors to control fuel and the FTC to control timing I would have been fine. I was just thinking last night how much I ACTUALLY missed that car...
I'm right there with ya, Steve. Thank the lord Wes opened my eyes to the KL. I just wish I would've known about it sooner. I could've saved a lot of money not wasting it on my FS trying to make it faster. But my motor is a reliable little guy.
Speaking of KL... I've got MSP axles waiting on a shelf in the garage, a KL31 JDM ECU and JE-50 VAF coming tomorrow, the tranny saver brace next week, and possibly an MX3 flywheel. I'm waiting to hear back from JDM Engine Depot in Jersey for some pics of a curved neck and straight neck KLZE's. It's fun parts hunting.
Speaking of KL... I've got MSP axles waiting on a shelf in the garage, a KL31 JDM ECU and JE-50 VAF coming tomorrow, the tranny saver brace next week, and possibly an MX3 flywheel. I'm waiting to hear back from JDM Engine Depot in Jersey for some pics of a curved neck and straight neck KLZE's. It's fun parts hunting.
so for the last couple days ive been reading this thread on m3f and im kinda shocked/saddened to see it all happen, but at the same time said vendor wasnt thre greatest to begin with haha
YET another "vendor" bites the dust (by his own doing) {although said vendor is still on here and all threads on this forum regarding the matter have been deleted}
YET another "vendor" bites the dust (by his own doing) {although said vendor is still on here and all threads on this forum regarding the matter have been deleted}
PrinceValorum
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Haha, that's a nice way to put it. I think I beat you across the head with the idea whether you wanted to hear about it or not, talking about my own car.
Guess who has two thumbs and is now enrolled in an auto body welding and fabrication course? That's right, this guy. I hope it lives up to my expectations cus I'm soo excite.
The KL is much better suited to boost and increased power in general. Not even a contest. Not saying you can't get there with the fs-de. It's obvious by looking around at numerous builds pushing over 250whp that it's not difficult. But it's far easier and less headache with a motor designed with performance in mind, versus the pedestrian fs-de that was utilized in the msp due simply to Mazda making a business decision geared at immediate profitability. The KL was legitimately engineered with performance in mind. Really the only immediate limitation are the stock rods (Why does mazda always skimp on the rods? lol).
That's awesome. I found welding courses @ UC w/ no pre-reqs that I plan on taking as soon as I can fit them in my schedule.
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PrinceValorum
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They don't. Just take a look at the rods on the FE3. They're friggin beefy as hell, they're bigger than the rods in the SR20, and those are well known to handle quite a bit of power stock.
"These shots show the difference between the rods in the FE3 and the Rods from a SR20DET. The DET rods are known to hold over 400hp.. The FE3 rods have yet to be proven, but by these shots they should hold some serious power."
Pics are at the bottom of the page
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/208651/1990-mazda-miata-mx-5-little-rock-ar-us?p=5
The F2T (1st gen MX6/Probe, 3rd gen 626) is also pretty stout, and the rods are good for around 300whp, which is a good deal in a light fwd car.
PrinceValorum
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Whoops. IMO it seems that the older motors are built better than some of the semi-recent stuff. I guess time will tell how the new stuff (MZR) will hold up. So far, mixed results with the speeds...
