The Fordspeed Protege?

[03.5YellowMSP]

the wiring harness going to the ecu has FORD stamped on it.

 

[jflo]

there's a mitsu part in the MSP...it's on the left hand side of the car under the hood...u'll see the diamond star on some wire harness module thingy i don't knoe...but it's on there

 

[Notorious]

If your talking about dr. sound i can guarantee it would have injured him if they deployed. In a roll over accident air bags should not deploy. Read your manual.

I find it somewhat interesting that the airbags on the MSP are supposedly made by Ford. I say this because I think I've seen a couple threads about how there is no known case of the airbags deploying upon impact in the MSP. I recall some guy even driving off a cliff and they didn't deploy.

 

[girth]

When I worked for a Chevrolet dealership in the mid 80's, the Chevy Nova was a Toyota Corolla. We called it a Toyolet.

LOL, that my friend is genius!

All I know is that I wish Ford would take even more control over Mazda -- maybe that way Mazda wouldn't be such a little b**** when you complain about a problem. Fords may have a lot of problems but at least they admit it and recall the POS instead of sit and deny any problems exist for years like Mazda does (e.g. clunk=denied for over a year, hesitation=denied for many months).

 

[charles]

Geez you guys are babies! Many cars today have Mitsubishi parts in the electrical system! What about those bosch relays?

Oh no, my 86 Volvo had a German transmission and Bosch electronics!

My 77 Pontiac has a Chevrolet engine!

My 92 Protege has a Mitsubishi ignition system!

Sheesh.

 

[spacemonkey]

My TV is made by Mitsubishi...they do heavy industry...they make everything (almost). Im intrested to learn what other car Manufactures are found in our MSP?

 

[Notorious]

This is kind of interesting... look up toyota cavalier on the internet. You'll see it actually exists.

 

[rocketspeed]

LOL, that my friend is genius!

All I know is that I wish Ford would take even more control over Mazda -- maybe that way Mazda wouldn't be such a little b**** when you complain about a problem. Fords may have a lot of problems but at least they admit it and recall the POS instead of sit and deny any problems exist for years like Mazda does (e.g. clunk=denied for over a year, hesitation=denied for many months).

Don't be so sure. The Focus SVT's have had issues with the dual mass flywheel causing clutches to prematurely fail and Ford isn't admitting to the problem yet, despite the fact that clutches are failing at an alarming rate in the 10-20k mile range.

They've also had a problem with the cable that controls the dual stage intake. They break. They designed an improved cable, it also breaks. Lots of people have had this fail 3, 4 times.

The clamps that hold the intake manifold on are cheap, so lots of intake manifolds have fallen off. They clamp them back on and they fall off again.

Worst one of all, there have been a bunch of cases where the clutch disc breaks loose and comes through the bell housing of the tranny. Bring it in and the dealer will try to deny your warranty citing abuse- they'll tell you it had to be abuse because this just doesn't happen if you don't abuse. It looks like the dual mass flywheel may also be the culprit here, but its not definate yet. People have had to raise hell to get their trannies replaced under warranty.

They aren't too much different than Mazda in my experience. Or really any other manufacturer. VW can be a huge PITA.

 

[MazdaSP]

isnt sparco an italian industry? so the 03's knob and pedals are italian, i dunno what im talking about. I apologize

 

[spacemonkey]

I thought Sparco was from teh US and Momo is italian...might be wrong.

 

[03MSP]

maybe the kid confused mazda with masarati?? kinda similar in name but no where near in cars or quality. and as far as mazda being owned by ford...yeah its true. but ford steals from mazda...look at the 91+ escort...same chasis design as the 90-94 mazda protege...hell they even stole the 1.8 bp dohc and put it in the gt models. and the probe? they stole the klze and stuck it in the probe gt models...but only it was downgraded...dont know exact model size but its the same engine in the probe gt which is turbo'd. fun cars. so yeah...mazda may have stole the tranny for the 3rd gen proteges from ford...but ford has stolen everything else.

KLZE was j-spec engine, KL-03 was a-spec....anyway, they used the 1st gen engine from the MX-6's and 626's in probes too.

 

[WillisW555]

Sparco is Italian. Also, look at VW and Porsche, when they co-developed the chassis for the Touraeg/Cayanne.

They have to in order to stay competitive. Parts and platform sharing cut costs, which allow us to buy nicer, faster car for less money.

I think Ford had too much input a while back, when the products were not appealing. I think I read that Mazda will have more say now and look at the products that are coming out now, the 6, RX-8, the 3, hopefully a US bound RX-7.

BTW - Fiat owns at least part of Ferrari which owns Maserati

 

[MSPDAVE125]

I remember reading somewhere that Mazda could at any point buy back the shares Ford owns. Because of people like us who have made their sales turn around completely in the past 5-7 yrs.
I don't think they will because having that type of capital backing you is NOT a bad thing.

In regards to the whole mix-n-match parts thing?

Every car has Mitsubishi parts.

Hell the Chevy Cavalier 2.2L Ecotec is a Honda Block and Head!

Figure that one out!

 

[kcbhiw]

Hell the Chevy Cavalier 2.2L Ecotec is a Honda Block and Head!

I thought the Ecotec was a derivative of the Quad-4.(scratch)

 

[rocketspeed]

The V6 being stuffed in the Saturn VUE Redline is Honda designed and built. Much stronger motor than the GM 6 cylinder plant they formerly offered in that goofy little SUV.