The Fordspeed Protege?
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spacemonkey
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Ford is not that bad...they make great trucks. My dad is still driving a 93 Ford Ranger (the B series Truck). I drove an 98 Explorer for 5 years without any problems...only the stupid tire issue which I didn't change till a year after the recall. They just replaced the damn thing with Bridgestone (same comapny). I traded my explorer because I didn't like driving a SUV cuz of the gas issue. I'm a bit bias cuz my whole family drives Chevy, Ford or BMW. I'm the first Mazda or Japanese car owner in my family...and I love my MSP, more then my ex(plorer).
Anyways I heard the FS-DE is good reliable engine. I don't know how good it does under boost. I do know the MX6 has the same engine.
I believe Ford owns 33% of Mazda. Ford also owns Volvo, Linclon, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Linclon, Mercury and Land Rover. Not a bad line up but what do they have in common? We were just discussing why Ford would be intrested in Mazda, Volvo and etc in our marketing class. My professor might be crazy but he claims its all about marketing and image. He made a good argument.
What company did Ford Motor company steal parts from for the GT-40? Aston Martin and Jaguar? I finally got to see it up close at a autoshow...ITS AMAZING. I wish my MSP had that kind of suspension. Mazda needs to steal some of that technology from Ford. The new Mustangs are nice too (IMO).
Anyways I heard the FS-DE is good reliable engine. I don't know how good it does under boost. I do know the MX6 has the same engine.
I believe Ford owns 33% of Mazda. Ford also owns Volvo, Linclon, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Linclon, Mercury and Land Rover. Not a bad line up but what do they have in common? We were just discussing why Ford would be intrested in Mazda, Volvo and etc in our marketing class. My professor might be crazy but he claims its all about marketing and image. He made a good argument.
What company did Ford Motor company steal parts from for the GT-40? Aston Martin and Jaguar? I finally got to see it up close at a autoshow...ITS AMAZING. I wish my MSP had that kind of suspension. Mazda needs to steal some of that technology from Ford. The new Mustangs are nice too (IMO).
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It's true that Ford owns Mazda partly. They rebadged the Protege 3rd Gen as a Ford (Tierra and Lynx) and it's being sold side-by-side with the 323 Protege in Taiwan I think. Also the Mazda Tribute is being sold as the Ford Escape. The Mazda pickups are being sold as Ford Rangers here.
I've been to the Ford plant here. Proteges for export to Malaysia and Lynxes for domestic use were being assembled side by side.
But I guess since you guys have all those all-american Ford cars, I know why you're all ashamed of Ford owning part of Mazda.
I've been to the Ford plant here. Proteges for export to Malaysia and Lynxes for domestic use were being assembled side by side.
But I guess since you guys have all those all-american Ford cars, I know why you're all ashamed of Ford owning part of Mazda.
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Not to mention Mazda NAVAJO...lol. Glad that went off the market.
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Ford owns 33.4 % of Mazda and according to japanense law this is a controlling interest.
for more read this
http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/MAZDA/tokusyu4/e980526.html
for more read this
http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/MAZDA/tokusyu4/e980526.html
spacemonkey
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oliver2000 said:
Thats a cool article!
"Ford does not want Mazda to become just like Ford. That would be of no interest to Ford. Let's make no mistake about that. Ford says it wants Mazda to maintain its own distinctive existence, and to produce characteristically Mazda vehicles. Ford doesn't want to make Mazda indistinguishable from itself. These sentiments are very strongly held at Ford, you know."
On a side note: GM has relations with Subaru's parent company Fuji Heavy Industries. Nissan is now owned by Renault. It is all about survival in the automotive industry...
yup, its a two sided thing... mazda was going to go belly up, ford came in and saved them...
we have way too many re-bdges here the ford laser/protege the courier/bravo escape/tribute
big thing is ford don't want to sell ford through mazda.... that would be silly, and now mazda has been having great success ford want to share complete models and not just technologies!!
eg the new mazda three has the same chassis as the focus and the new volvo 4wd.... thats where the similarities stop...
i am curious to know who tuned the protege suspension, coz stock handling is out of this world
we have way too many re-bdges here the ford laser/protege the courier/bravo escape/tribute
big thing is ford don't want to sell ford through mazda.... that would be silly, and now mazda has been having great success ford want to share complete models and not just technologies!!
eg the new mazda three has the same chassis as the focus and the new volvo 4wd.... thats where the similarities stop...
i am curious to know who tuned the protege suspension, coz stock handling is out of this world
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Tell your Uncle that I saw him once, there was a 20/20 special about chicks w/dicks. Ford, **** him.
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Ford's controlling interest in Mazda means they run the show. Ford is the boss. They share some parts. Chrysler shares parts with Mercedes Benz. Ford with Jaguar. The X-type Jag shares its underpinnings with the Mondeo (Contour). The Volvo s40 and Mazda 3 now share a platform. GM shares parts and platforms and owns a chunk of Isuzu. They own a chunk of Subaru, who will be making a revised WRX wagon as the new Saab 9-2 (which GM owns also). Chrysler and Mercedes Benz are starting to share lots of parts and some platforms. GM is starting to source engines from Honda. Toyota will be selling its excellent hybrid powerplants to a bunch of other manufacturers in the near future. The SRT-4 has a mitsubishi sourced turbo. There are a zillion examples and they don't always flow from companies that share ownership (ie. GM sourcing Honda motors).
Its the way the auto industry works. Look under the hood in the top corner of the drivers side on your MSP and there's a little electrical doodad sitting there with a Mitsubishi logo on it. I don't know what it is, but its sitting there.
Honda and Toyota are the only two truly independant Japanese auto manufacturers.
I think someone asked who tuned the suspension for the MSP- it was Racing Beat.
Its the way the auto industry works. Look under the hood in the top corner of the drivers side on your MSP and there's a little electrical doodad sitting there with a Mitsubishi logo on it. I don't know what it is, but its sitting there.
Honda and Toyota are the only two truly independant Japanese auto manufacturers.
I think someone asked who tuned the suspension for the MSP- it was Racing Beat.
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I just hope we don't see rotary engines in other vehicles...thats Mazda's trademark and Ford better not change that. YOU HEAR THAT FORD MOTORCOMPANY...rotary is off limits!
I think he was asking...
rocketspeed said:
I think he was asking...
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I don't think you have to wory about Ford using the rotary. Or any other car manufacturer, for that matter.
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One interesting thing to note here is that the two best handling front drivers on sale in the US right now are probably the MSP and Focus SVT. I guess Fomoco knows a thing or two about front drive performance.
actually some of the dashes in Honda's are apparanty made by an american company. My Honda mechanic said this to me with my last Honda. Said there was Ford stickers on the inside of the dash like it was assembled in a Ford plant. first I ever heard of it, haven't heard anything else abou it either.
Ford does own a lot of shares in Honda as well, so I wouldn't doubt it. Yes Honda makes all of it's own stuff though.
I've said it time and time before, and I'll say it again. Ford's relationship with Mazda is and was the only thing preventing me from owning a Mazda earlier. I still will NOT buy one of their shared vehicles...aka, tribute, MPV, B2000 series. They are NOT mazda's in my mind, and the troubles I see people having with them are typical of Ford vehicles.
The Mazda 3, while mostly Mazda, shares a little too much with ford for my taste, and to be honest, I may not buy another Mazda passed this one. I don't want a 4 cyl Mazda 6 ( all Mazda btw ) and I do not want a 6 cyl. Mazda 6 that has anything to do with Ford.
So, your uncle is both right/way wrong. 33% of Mazda is owned by Ford. that's the controlling interest for the Japan market, which means....Ford is the boss.
The ECU, and I think ( rumor warning ) the seatbelts, and airbags are Ford. Seen no proof that the seat belts/bags are Ford yet though. Everything else is all Japanese, built in Japan, and shipped from Japan.
Ford does own a lot of shares in Honda as well, so I wouldn't doubt it. Yes Honda makes all of it's own stuff though.
I've said it time and time before, and I'll say it again. Ford's relationship with Mazda is and was the only thing preventing me from owning a Mazda earlier. I still will NOT buy one of their shared vehicles...aka, tribute, MPV, B2000 series. They are NOT mazda's in my mind, and the troubles I see people having with them are typical of Ford vehicles.
The Mazda 3, while mostly Mazda, shares a little too much with ford for my taste, and to be honest, I may not buy another Mazda passed this one. I don't want a 4 cyl Mazda 6 ( all Mazda btw ) and I do not want a 6 cyl. Mazda 6 that has anything to do with Ford.
So, your uncle is both right/way wrong. 33% of Mazda is owned by Ford. that's the controlling interest for the Japan market, which means....Ford is the boss.
The ECU, and I think ( rumor warning ) the seatbelts, and airbags are Ford. Seen no proof that the seat belts/bags are Ford yet though. Everything else is all Japanese, built in Japan, and shipped from Japan.
