I remember having a conversation with my uncle about buying an MSP before I bought my car. He advised against it, the main reason being that he said it wasn't reliable because Mazda was owned by Ford? I went against his advice. Does anyone know if there is any truth to this? And if so, how much of Mazda (percentage-wise) does Ford own. If you're really in the know, you could tell me if any of the MSP's parts are made by Ford. I'm pretty sure that the MSP is made in Japan however, because the first letter in my VIN# is J.
The Fordspeed Protege?
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Roywhitep5
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do you work at starbucks on saratoga ave?
Striker187
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your uncle is right. ford does own part of mazda. but i think mazda still operates basically autonomously from ford. but they do share parts i believe.....the ecu i think is one of them.
jonnydoe48
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starbucks on saratoga? in westgate?
as u should...just kidding i don't knoe u.
but ne way, i was kinda pissed off some time ago by a fellow student who i consider to be very DUMB and full of BS...ne way, he was blabbing off about the "integra r-type" (idiot can't even get the name right)...and i was beaming 'cause of my brand new MSP and stuff and talked about the miata...so he tells me yeah ford owns mazda and i said yeah i knoe that, but mazda is pretty much mazda still not much transplantation of crap from the new owner. and blah blah blah this and that...then he says oh yeah mazda is from italy. WTF ? ITALY ? i was about to jump up and yell in his face. he's like yeah italy 'cause u knoe how they look so similar to lamborghinis and ferraris. WHAT ? u idiot. mazda doesn't even sound remotely italian and mazda's cars don't look ne thing like overpriced italian cars. so yeah more BS from this guy...the Blitz R34 Skyline that was tested on the autobahn he says hit 300MPH...300MPH isn't possible on gasoline powered engines...they'd have to be powered by methanol and be in a funny car body. it was actually 300 km/h ~ 200mph or so...but yeah, hate that mofo for saying that mazda was italian and mentioning something about Ford (the mother of all crappy ass cars in america)
but ne way, i was kinda pissed off some time ago by a fellow student who i consider to be very DUMB and full of BS...ne way, he was blabbing off about the "integra r-type" (idiot can't even get the name right)...and i was beaming 'cause of my brand new MSP and stuff and talked about the miata...so he tells me yeah ford owns mazda and i said yeah i knoe that, but mazda is pretty much mazda still not much transplantation of crap from the new owner. and blah blah blah this and that...then he says oh yeah mazda is from italy. WTF ? ITALY ? i was about to jump up and yell in his face. he's like yeah italy 'cause u knoe how they look so similar to lamborghinis and ferraris. WHAT ? u idiot. mazda doesn't even sound remotely italian and mazda's cars don't look ne thing like overpriced italian cars. so yeah more BS from this guy...the Blitz R34 Skyline that was tested on the autobahn he says hit 300MPH...300MPH isn't possible on gasoline powered engines...they'd have to be powered by methanol and be in a funny car body. it was actually 300 km/h ~ 200mph or so...but yeah, hate that mofo for saying that mazda was italian and mentioning something about Ford (the mother of all crappy ass cars in america)
ricenudles
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lol mazda is an italian car... good one
but yeah Ford owns 33.4% of mazda. They call it an "alliance" more than ownership and no its not a fordspeed. If anything, Ford bought mazda in order to learn engineering and development (saves ford $$$$).
but yeah Ford owns 33.4% of mazda. They call it an "alliance" more than ownership and no its not a fordspeed. If anything, Ford bought mazda in order to learn engineering and development (saves ford $$$$).
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snowboy70 said:
Why does this guy always hang out on the forum and say stupid s*** all day? WTF? Go get a job or a girlfriend or something. Better yet, discover your right hand. I really don't give a s*** about your stupid volkswagen. Grow up and get a life moron.
)nonameheroes
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maybe the kid confused mazda with masarati?? kinda similar in name but no where near in cars or quality. and as far as mazda being owned by ford...yeah its true. but ford steals from mazda...look at the 91+ escort...same chasis design as the 90-94 mazda protege...hell they even stole the 1.8 bp dohc and put it in the gt models. and the probe? they stole the klze and stuck it in the probe gt models...but only it was downgraded...dont know exact model size but its the same engine in the probe gt which is turbo'd. fun cars. so yeah...mazda may have stole the tranny for the 3rd gen proteges from ford...but ford has stolen everything else.
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Wow "**** me he's joking around" huh...wtf like I'm ******* psychic and can read the sarcasm in his post. And I didn't say the ECU's programming wasn't crap, but I look at it like this. I'll sit here and talk s*** about my car all day if I want to. But when a jetta owner (or any other car owner) tells me my car is s***, I'm the first one to jump down their throats. It may be a piece of s***, but that's my piece of s***. So **** off.
BTW I have much better things to do than to ***** around on a board that I don't even own that type of car.
BTW I have much better things to do than to ***** around on a board that I don't even own that type of car.
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Ok, just to be clear. The Probe is the same car as the MX-6. There is no KL-ZE in the U.S., due to emissions reasons. The KL-DE in the Probe is identical to the KL-DE in the MX-6. The G-series gearbox in the third gen Protege has been used by Mazda (at least) since the first-gen Protege, in one form or another.nonameheroes said:
