The Best "CUV" I've seen

I can relate to that... that was camping with my parents when I was younger as well.

Hey, if it was up to me I throw on a 70lb backpack, walk to the bush and camp out. :-D Can't do that as easily with a family of 4. Since about 2 years old my parents took me to all sorts of camping trips, now at 44 with family
 
One of my relatives has a G55 with 100K miles, it's reliable and robust. They use it for camping and short trips only, usually drive a Camry Hybrid, I wonder why....
 
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Flame me guys...IMO... I just don't see the reliability with many of the European CUV & SUVs ... Maybe something like the G class will see 200K miles without too many issues?

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I do have a neighbor with a 2001 that he claims has been bulletproof.

I am wary as well. Our neighbor has the 7 seater Mercedes SUV and they have tons of issues with it. The electronics are always failing and doing very strange things.

Also, this is not the correct comparison. You buy the CX-5 if you want a new, small car with AWD ability, good gas mileage and a sub 30K price tag. Not a 40K German car that will cost you more to maintain and service and get 20 MPG, if you are lucky....
 
No kiddin, CX-5 competes with CRV, Escape, Rav, Rogue, Sportage, Tuscon mostly... (Not G wagons, Mecans, Explorers)
 
Hey, if it was up to me I throw on a 70lb backpack, walk to the bush and camp out. :-D Can't do that as easily with a family of 4. Since about 2 years old my parents took me to all sorts of camping trips, now at 44 with family and the long driving I like to do a small 2500lb hardshell would be perfect. I can stop anywhere, get in the trailer, have lunch and/or break. Setup camp in a minute, tear down in the same. Not worry about packing a wet tent to the next site, and on and on. For me now, camping is being with family, and friends.

I think the best you could do with CX-5 is hardshell pop-up like Chalet at 1300# dry.
Says it can sleep four, but would be pretty tight.
http://www.chaletrv.com/folding-trailers/
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People seem to want a lot for teardrop trailers and hardshell pop-ups. Almost as much as a used Class A. I've researched Class A RVs in the past. Best deal are Holiday Ramblers with full aluminum chassis with EFI fuel injection after 1997. Best deals and best condition are in Texas and Arizona in late summer when people try to dump them before putting them in winter storage. Texas and Arizona are dry with no salty roads, so they are in good shape. On a good day, you can find a 1999 32' Holiday Rambler for $15,000 with less than 60K miles. Beats paying $10K for a tiny trailer. Here is a so-so deal for a 1997 for $10K, but probably not EFI. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/rvs/4590411546.html
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While I'm day dreaming, this 1961 2000# trailer reissue is cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7WRedZgPU
 
Seems like a good deal if it spent most of it's life down south.

It would be EFI as well. I think the last 460 to have a carb was like '87 or '88.


People seem to want a lot for teardrop trailers and hardshell pop-ups. Almost as much as a used Class A. I've researched Class A RVs in the past. Best deal are Holiday Ramblers with full aluminum chassis with EFI fuel injection after 1997. Best deals and best condition are in Texas and Arizona in late summer when people try to dump them before putting them in winter storage. Texas and Arizona are dry with no salty roads, so they are in good shape. On a good day, you can find a 1999 32' Holiday Rambler for $15,000 with less than 60K miles. Beats paying $10K for a tiny trailer. Here is a so-so deal for a 1997 for $10K, but probably not EFI. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/rvs/4590411546.html
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While I'm day dreaming, this 1961 2000# trailer reissue is cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7WRedZgPU
 
Seems like a good deal if it spent most of it's life down south.

It would be EFI as well. I think the last 460 to have a carb was like '87 or '88.

That's true of cars, but not RVs. I know 1996 they were carbs still on class A RVs. EFI increases mpg 30%, no cold start issues, and you don't have gas/air mixture problems in the mountains. Means the difference in getting 7mpg or 9mpg. Doesn't sound like much, but when you are burning that much gas, its a lot of money.
 
I bought the CX-5 because it gets good MPG (for a CUV). We sold our 2012 QX56 to get into the CX-5. We bough the QX56 because I used to tow a race car. Once that was out of the picture, there was no need to keep something with a gigantic V8 that gets 18mpg on a good day going down hill, using premium gas. Not sure I'd care for a V6 option in the CX5. If I were going there, the RDX would be my choice.

Speaking of Macan. We looked into buying one... one thing about buying German, off lease certified is my choice... MUCH better value than new. Macans are too new... maybe in a couple 2-3 years.
 
I'm not sure what the specs for towing are for the CX5 2.2 diesel overseas but if that were to make it to this side of the pond it may be just the ticket to maintain excellent mileage but have better towing capacity?
 
I don't want to be a smartass, but mecan= Macan right?

Like in Porsche Macan:
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The Audi Q5 (or SQ5) is cheaper and faster (when properly equipped) and it drives on the same platform. Here, you pay extra for the brand name. It can tow up to 4400lb and can be had in a diesel. Soon to be redone for 2016.
 
For me now, camping is being with family, and friends.

Yeah, you can camp in your living room with family and friends, right?

For me, camping is being in the great out of doors, whether solo, my wife or with family and/or friends. If we're camping within a few hundred feet of our car we call it car camping, otherwise it's called backpacking (which is a great way to go, family, young kids or not). Don't limit yourself. American families have been backpacking and car camping together before we had waterproof tents, lightweight gear and Gore-tex. Guess what? They had fun too. Maybe more.

In a trailer or motor home we call it RV'ing. Not as much fun and not my cup of tea. And often the least crowded/most spectacular sites are inaccessible to RV's. It's not uncommon for RV'ers to pick sites closer to home because it's not that much fun to tow a trailer or drive a big motor home on back roads or to get 10 mpg for hundreds of miles. The CX-5 is FUN to drive, I feel like our vacation/adventure starts soon after leaving our driveway instead of upon arriving at our destination. And we get 33 MPG so there is no temptation to compromise our trip for budgetary reasons.
 
The Audi Q5 (or SQ5) is cheaper and faster (when properly equipped) and it drives on the same platform.

And we all know, faster is better, right?

Especially in a utility vehicle.

My CX-5 has the smaller 2.0L engine and it goes faster than I need it to go. Much faster.
 
Yeah, you can camp in your living room with family and friends, right?

For me, camping is being in the great out of doors, whether solo, my wife or with family and/or friends. If we're camping within a few hundred feet of our car we call it car camping, otherwise it's called backpacking (which is a great way to go, family, young kids or not). Don't limit yourself. American families have been backpacking and car camping together before we had waterproof tents, lightweight gear and Gore-tex. Guess what? They had fun too. Maybe more.

In a trailer or motor home we call it RV'ing. Not as much fun and not my cup of tea. And often the least crowded/most spectacular sites are inaccessible to RV's. It's not uncommon for RV'ers to pick sites closer to home because it's not that much fun to tow a trailer or drive a big motor home on back roads or to get 10 mpg for hundreds of miles. The CX-5 is FUN to drive, I feel like our vacation/adventure starts soon after leaving our driveway instead of upon arriving at our destination. And we get 33 MPG so there is no temptation to compromise our trip for budgetary reasons.

You know I was talking about being outside. I don't limit myself or family from having a good time, please don't think otherwise.

CX-5 is a tool, just not the right one. That's my fault, the 2012 5 we had was a better solution in terms of cargo space available, handling and shifting. Sure, the CX-5 tows a lot more than the 5 but because it falls shy of towing anything significant to me, its no better.

33MPG? You are lucky, the best 60/40 c/h I get is 9.3L/100KM.
 
You know I was talking about being outside.

I know, my "camping in the living room" was said tongue in cheek. The point of my comment was that being with family/friends is not incompatible with any form of camping unless we are talking about serious physical handicaps.

33MPG? You are lucky, the best 60/40 c/h I get is 9.3L/100KM.


Not lucky, my mileage is based on the fact that I bought the 2.0L engine and my driving style incorporates awareness of what is happening down the road, 10-20 seconds in the future. I don't drive as if I am in a little 50-100 foot cocoon, reacting to every 'unexpected' surprise that crops up. I also do not idle to warm up my engine (unless it's below 10-15degrees F or the humidity is high enough that I need time to defrost/demist the windows). If I (or someone in the car) needs to run into a store (even briefly) I turn the engine off. I consider these things common sense but am often surprised how many people do not.

That's not luck - it's being responsible and taking charge.
 
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