TBK Performance New Monster !!!

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That is the name of TBK's owner. It looks af if the listing is a mistake. It should say MSP.
 
the dyno will be posted soon as well, but god damn you guys are so crazy about a sheet of paper, take it easy men, it was more important for me to post the pictures of the Trophy I won in the Hot Import Nights than a peace of paper with numbers, whats so important about the Dyno ? I will post the dyno sometime tomorrow when i ask dad go get it at the glove box..... also here in spain is 6 hours more than in Miami, when im sleeping my dad is working and viseversa, i have a life you know, my life doesnt run around a Dyno. it seems that all you guys care and ask is the dyno, dyno, dyno, dyno.... theres are other questions you guys can ask in the mean time i post the important Dyno !!!. its 5:45 am here in spain and im mad tired Good Night to everyone !!!

uhhh..ok...so you're so tired with your busy life that you keep talking about ALL thee gigs of pictures from HIN that you want and how you want to put up your trophy picture, but you, in the past couple of weeks have NOT been able to find one sheet of paper, whose location you are 100% certain of so that you could post it online and finally prove the hundreds of people who are wondering already that you are not just lieing?

If you're going to go online and claim big horsepower numbers guess what, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE IT. So why are you surprised that's it's been weeks and you have nothing to show ad everyone is starting to call you out? I'm sorry but for all this money and work you have done to your car and engine, this thread is WORTHLESS without dynos. " MSP Engine, Performance & Forced Induction" is the section you posted in first off. If you wanted to proclaim yourself all over the net and celebrate your HIN trophy you can go post in the appearance section.

My suggestion, Take a whole 10 min out of your current life's planand get your dyno sheet up....it'll end a lot of talk and finally prove you right. Unless there is something you'd like to tell us? (doh)
 
Alot of magazines and s*** like that never write MSP. We always get the shaft. Superstreet wrote mazda protege for my car. Is it so hard, the car is called a mazdaspeed protege'.

And it is time for some dyno numbers.

P.S. I don't know why I always wait till it's too late to enter HIN.2 years in a row. I personally think my car would of won 1st place if yours did.No offense I mean under the hood you got me by alot lol but on the outside I think I got you.
 
Do to Broken Relations with TBK Performance all of the pics and everything TBK related will be deleted, AVARELA86 if you don't mind can you Delete the Reply you did with my car picture where you sitting next to it, will be highly appreciated. Very Sad I can't change the name of these Thread. I really thank all of the person that passed by and read and participate in these thread.
 
Do to Broken Relations with TBK Performance all of the pics and everything TBK related will be deleted, AVARELA86 if you don't mind can you Delete the Reply you did with my car picture where you sitting next to it, will be highly appreciated. Very Sad I can't change the name of these Thread. I really thank all of the person that passed by and read and participate in these thread.

What da hell happened?
 
uhhh..ok...so you're so tired with your busy life that you keep talking about ALL thee gigs of pictures from HIN that you want and how you want to put up your trophy picture, but you, in the past couple of weeks have NOT been able to find one sheet of paper, whose location you are 100% certain of so that you could post it online and finally prove the hundreds of people who are wondering already that you are not just lieing?

If you're going to go online and claim big horsepower numbers guess what, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVE IT. So why are you surprised that's it's been weeks and you have nothing to show ad everyone is starting to call you out? I'm sorry but for all this money and work you have done to your car and engine, this thread is WORTHLESS without dynos. " MSP Engine, Performance & Forced Induction" is the section you posted in first off. If you wanted to proclaim yourself all over the net and celebrate your HIN trophy you can go post in the appearance section.

My suggestion, Take a whole 10 min out of your current life's planand get your dyno sheet up....it'll end a lot of talk and finally prove you right. Unless there is something you'd like to tell us? (doh)


if you haven't notice i live in Spain, and i'am thousands of miles away from my car, plus in here are 6 hours more than in Miami, so when i go to work my dad its sleeping, and when im sleeping my dad its working.. if you think these thread is USELESS or WORTHLESS like you said, very easy solution, don't come back. and if you are smart enough and have knowledge about modding you can see these is not a bulls*** project, i will post the damn dyno for people like you that just care about a peace of paper, and by the way if i post the pictures of my car with a trophy at any show it's because is not USELESS or WORTHLESS, my life doesn not run around a damn sheet of paper called dyno, if you want to believe or not the numbers i said i have is your problem. and im not claiming s*** or trying to be the s*** over the net showing my car up, these is a free community and you post what ever you feel like it or want, I really at these point dont give a damn thing about a dyno, and much less when i have found out the place i have spend all of my savings, hard work and efforts are just Not a Place to trust and much less spend money on, they don't deserve me to talk about them and advertise s*** about them anymore.... Buddie a Damn Dyno don't mean s***, and also they can be fake, you think if i had bad intentions and lying intentions, long time ago these thread will have a fake ass dyno with crazy ass numbers, how can you be so sure that s*** it's true. I can search the web and look for a dyno that more than one person here will be like WTF crazy, but am honest and for the people out there that have knowledge about what the hell i have under the hood they can estimate what i do have or what power im around i don't have anything else to say about these Subject....
 
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ok, since miguel seems to be shy about this, i will clarify and get you the scoop on what really went on with his car.

It all started when his engine hydrolocked, at that time, miguel didn't know TBK and was seriously contemplating the idea of junking the car. I assured him it was a good idea to get it back in the road and to take this oportunity to take the car to the next level.

We removed the engine and went hunting for someone to do machine work. PROTEGE GARAGE supplied all of our parts except for a few, i spoke to miguel about the posibility of having TBK do the machine work on the head and block, which they did...to a certain extent...this is where it gets good.

After many attempts to finish the work on time, tiring calls to see if the motor was machined and a bunch of VOICEMAILS, we finally get the block back.

I wasn't able to assemble the rods and pistons, so we spoke to him about this and he said it was a 10 minute thing that ended up taking 2 days (what?)

the engine was done, but having been bitten by the mod-bug..miguel decided to do more things to the engine. So the jurney began...

Everytime we wanted updates as to how it was coming out, we were promised "it'll be done next friday"...gosh..i don't think i've ever heard that phrase so many times before....unfortunately, that friday came about 4 months later. at which time...tbk convinced him of going "BIGGER" and promised the 550WHP that everyone talked about for so long. He got his car back with a haltech installed and a bunch of other stuff only to break his 3rd gear 1 week later. not a problem, shith happens. Took the car back and it was decided that going with a forged transmission was a better deal....that and a bigger turbo, bigger IC, PnP manifold among other expensive parts...so...down it went again, 5 months and countless hours of trying to get ahold of him and thousands of dollars he gets his car back...by this time, miguel is in spain.

comes HIN, TBK "REQUESTS" the car to be borrowed to take to HIN. no a problem, miguel loaned the car to manuel. now, here is where it gets funny.

MANUEL, had the balls to have miguel pay for TBK stickers, how frigging ridiculous is that? i mean, having TBK stickers at HIN wouldv'e been a heck of an advertisement, why should WE pay for this?

they charged for a car wash....what? they requested the car, why should we pay for the carwash.

and they charged for the HIN vehicle registration...puff...WHAT?!?!?

miguel never intended to have his car at HIN, neither paying for registration...HIN was a last minute idea by manuel.....see the pattern?


they were disrespectful towards miguel's parents, sometimes even using words i won't repeat. they were called LIARS, THIEFS and CHEAP....CHEAP?? after spending over 15K there?

all in all, as it stands, TBK is one of the worst shops around here, and not only us agree on this but many other people who have had their vehicle taken care of there agrees to. We don't deny the fact that the job is done right but never in a timely manner.

The last fiasco as a haltech shiftlight that they installed WRONG, doesn't even WORK!

i guess miguel was better off junking the car 1 1/2 years ago, because at the end...he hasn't even driven it yet...and wont drive it for who knows how long.


this is our life story....like it or not.
 
If the OP wants me to, I can either retitle this thread .. or I'm very close to closing it. After all, it looks like it's finally crossed that line -- it's gone from 'look at my MSP' to people snarling at each other to a company being called out. I dunno about everyone else, but I've had about enough.
 
If the OP wants me to, I can either retitle this thread .. or I'm very close to closing it. After all, it looks like it's finally crossed that line -- it's gone from 'look at my MSP' to people snarling at each other to a company being called out. I dunno about everyone else, but I've had about enough.

Actually people may be getting information about a shop. Also he said he would post the dyno up later.
 
Well that sux man. I hate to hear of horror stories that happen to people and there cars.

I mean come on.....who has a block assembled in a driveway. (as in pic) Thats not really blueprinting an engine.

When it came to my engine I had a guy (Leitchperformance.com) do mne. I spent about 5k to have my engine done. Thats with out parts. I mean this guy used to build Nascar engines for the AP Performance racing. He knows his s***. It took him 3 days alone to assemble my long block. EVERY single thing is triple checked including an after breaking check.

Again, this sux that happend to you, and hope everything works out for you in the end.
 
ok, since miguel seems to be shy about this, i will clarify and get you the scoop on what really went on with his car.

It all started when his engine hydrolocked, at that time, miguel didn't know TBK and was seriously contemplating the idea of junking the car. I assured him it was a good idea to get it back in the road and to take this oportunity to take the car to the next level.

We removed the engine and went hunting for someone to do machine work. PROTEGE GARAGE supplied all of our parts except for a few, i spoke to miguel about the posibility of having TBK do the machine work on the head and block, which they did...to a certain extent...this is where it gets good.

After many attempts to finish the work on time, tiring calls to see if the motor was machined and a bunch of VOICEMAILS, we finally get the block back.

I wasn't able to assemble the rods and pistons, so we spoke to him about this and he said it was a 10 minute thing that ended up taking 2 days (what?)

the engine was done, but having been bitten by the mod-bug..miguel decided to do more things to the engine. So the jurney began...

Everytime we wanted updates as to how it was coming out, we were promised "it'll be done next friday"...gosh..i don't think i've ever heard that phrase so many times before....unfortunately, that friday came about 4 months later. at which time...tbk convinced him of going "BIGGER" and promised the 550WHP that everyone talked about for so long. He got his car back with a haltech installed and a bunch of other stuff only to break his 3rd gear 1 week later. not a problem, shith happens. Took the car back and it was decided that going with a forged transmission was a better deal....that and a bigger turbo, bigger IC, PnP manifold among other expensive parts...so...down it went again, 5 months and countless hours of trying to get ahold of him and thousands of dollars he gets his car back...by this time, miguel is in spain.

comes HIN, TBK "REQUESTS" the car to be borrowed to take to HIN. no a problem, miguel loaned the car to manuel. now, here is where it gets funny.

MANUEL, had the balls to have miguel pay for TBK stickers, how frigging ridiculous is that? i mean, having TBK stickers at HIN wouldv'e been a heck of an advertisement, why should WE pay for this?

they charged for a car wash....what? they requested the car, why should we pay for the carwash.

and they charged for the HIN vehicle registration...puff...WHAT?!?!?

miguel never intended to have his car at HIN, neither paying for registration...HIN was a last minute idea by manuel.....see the pattern?


they were disrespectful towards miguel's parents, sometimes even using words i won't repeat. they were called LIARS, THIEFS and CHEAP....CHEAP?? after spending over 15K there?

all in all, as it stands, TBK is one of the worst shops around here, and not only us agree on this but many other people who have had their vehicle taken care of there agrees to. We don't deny the fact that the job is done right but never in a timely manner.

The last fiasco as a haltech shiftlight that they installed WRONG, doesn't even WORK!

i guess miguel was better off junking the car 1 1/2 years ago, because at the end...he hasn't even driven it yet...and wont drive it for who knows how long.


this is our life story....like it or not.

Ahh, my story in a nutshell. Exactly what I went through. Except my built motor was installed incorrectly and took a dump. See this link and look at the pistons. This was after only 3k miles. See the link here and see for yourself on page 5 post number 15. That was my old motor that I sold to sandspeed built by TBK, too bad we had to find out what was wrong with it almost 8months later.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3310818&page=5
 
Well that sux man. I hate to hear of horror stories that happen to people and there cars.

I mean come on.....who has a block assembled in a driveway. (as in pic) Thats not really blueprinting an engine.

When it came to my engine I had a guy (Leitchperformance.com) do mne. I spent about 5k to have my engine done. Thats with out parts. I mean this guy used to build Nascar engines for the AP Performance racing. He knows his s***. It took him 3 days alone to assemble my long block. EVERY single thing is triple checked including an after breaking check.

Again, this sux that happend to you, and hope everything works out for you in the end.

^ http://leitchperformanceengines.com/ ;) I'm having my engine built there as well.
 
if you haven't notice i live in Spain, and i'am thousands of miles away from my car, plus in here are 6 hours more than in Miami, so when i go to work my dad its sleeping, and when im sleeping my dad its working.. if you think these thread is USELESS or WORTHLESS like you said, very easy solution, don't come back. and if you are smart enough and have knowledge about modding you can see these is not a bulls*** project, i will post the damn dyno for people like you that just care about a peace of paper, and by the way if i post the pictures of my car with a trophy at any show it's because is not USELESS or WORTHLESS, my life doesn not run around a damn sheet of paper called dyno, if you want to believe or not the numbers i said i have is your problem. and im not claiming s*** or trying to be the s*** over the net showing my car up, these is a free community and you post what ever you feel like it or want, I really at these point dont give a damn thing about a dyno, and much less when i have found out the place i have spend all of my savings, hard work and efforts are just Not a Place to trust and much less spend money on, they don't deserve me to talk about them and advertise s*** about them anymore.... Buddie a Damn Dyno don't mean s***, and also they can be fake, you think if i had bad intentions and lying intentions, long time ago these thread will have a fake ass dyno with crazy ass numbers, how can you be so sure that s*** it's true. I can search the web and look for a dyno that more than one person here will be like WTF crazy, but am honest and for the people out there that have knowledge about what the hell i have under the hood they can estimate what i do have or what power im around i don't have anything else to say about these Subject....


sorry i came off so harsh...bad morning...I know tbk has a bad rep though and that's one of th reasons i wanted to see actual results...Sorry you got "Mamed" as I like to call it now. gl in the future....and for the record, the car DID look to have some damn good potential, thus why i wanted to see the dyno...gl.
 
Wow...they got paid all that money and that's how they treat people?!?! WTF?!?!?!?! I'm glad I have a group of people that'll help me do my installs instead of running into a crappy shop like that one...damn shame.
 
having the engine built on a driveway has no relevance here.
is not about the carftmanship of the shop, unfortunately i can't complain about that. is about the time they take and their custome care.

and well...having a engine built is a hell of an experience...he got to experience first hand the process of building and engine and he learned more about mazda's that he'll ever get to thru msprotege.com
 
I will Post the Dyno sometime today, the dyno i got without adjustable cam gears, 1000cc injectors and Methanol Injection and on pump gas at 15 Psi. i feel really bad, i had the best image about these place and telling them how good they were, and also took a quite few friends overthere to do work, and i wanna make something clear, the work done its one of the best out there, but they seem to kill every single right thing they did, with treating their customer like crap, and much after spending over 20k in the car with them, how is it that i have to pay $ 200 to put their Stickers in my car ? but the worst they did is not about the money, its about the insults my mom and dad took from them, they insulted my mother and father calling them bastards, cheap asses and a bunch of bad words that i still cant believe, gimme a break where is professionality here ? you dont do these to the person that gives you work and something nice to show to others, i can let them do and talk the much crap they want, but Insulting my Parents... they are going to loose too much to list in here, they have just no idea what a mistreated and angry customer can really negative be to a business. its sad, its sad I still cant believe it.. well i guess that everything that shines is not gold !!!! they have lost a one of a kind customer and way more to come !!!
 
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