Switch from pannaut fmic to perrin fmic. **56K warning**

[strongbear0]

good lord! LOL... will there be a big christmas group buy for this thing???? It would be intresting to see how many people will jump on this... Or maybe a big group buy with the short ram n all. Still great system... too bad I don't got the cash for such a lovely toy!

I don't know about a group buy, it might be hard to find that many people to buy all at once. It is a beast though, best intercooler ever. I love this thing. This thing has some cooling power, after a drive if you touch the cold pipe it is very cold to the touch. I have had hardpipes and another fmic and none of them had a cold pipe that got this cold.

When I see Cullen tomorrow I will ask him if a gb is possible on this thing.

 

[daedalus]

You never really told us if there was a seat of the pants difference? I mean, obviously this core is meant for big numbers on big boost, but on the stock levels did it make a noticable difference? Pulls all the way to redline, etc? Just wonderin.

 

[Auzzie_Mp3]

looks sweet (thumb)

 

[strongbear0]

You never really told us if there was a seat of the pants difference? I mean, obviously this core is meant for big numbers on big boost, but on the stock levels did it make a noticable difference? Pulls all the way to redline, etc? Just wonderin.

Actually I did say that between the pannauto kit and the perrin kit it was hard to tell if there was a noticable difference. But when I went from stock to the pannauto there was a huge difference. Just hard to tell in the switch from one fmic to another. And with all my mods my stock boost is a lot higher than stock. With my profec b turned off my car boosts to 8.3psi. I can say for sure if someone were to put this on a car with a good exhaust you would be very pleased. Just for refrence I raced an infinity g35 from a roll in 2nd and pulled right along with him into 4th not bad considering a g35 is a 5.4 0-60 car. I also raced an eclipse gst from a stoplight. He Had a huge fmic and exhaust and he pulled about a quarter car on me in first, but by third I had a good car length on him. So the speed is most deffinatly faster just not as fast as I want it to be.

 

[FSDET]

both races are at stock boost ?

 

[daedalus]

strongbear0, what exactly are your mods??? I'm just curious b/c those races are VERY impressive.

 

[10lbsmocc]

Also not to step on anyones toes but the pannauto kit is like $895 and the core even though its smaller than perrins nice big I/C it is still rated at 350hp from PWR. Just thought I would share my 2cents.

 

[strongbear0]

Also not to step on anyones toes but the pannauto kit is like $895 and the core even though its smaller than perrins nice big I/C it is still rated at 350hp from PWR. Just thought I would share my 2cents.

I never said anything bad about the pannauto kit, but it in no way compares to the perrin kit. One is the best and one is just another fmic with bad pipe routing. Thanks for your .02 though.

 

[strongbear0]

strongbear0, what exactly are your mods??? I'm just curious b/c those races are VERY impressive.

3" turboback exhaust, Perrin fmic, enjine intake, turbo xs bpv recirculating and greddy type s venting, greddy profec b spec II set at 10psi, aem wideband 02. I figure with these mods I am putting at least 200 to the wheels if not a little more. A g35 puts down about 215whp and is heavier and I don't know about the eclipse, but he goes to UCF also so if I see him sometime I'll ask what kind of whp he is putting down. My boost hold pretty steady at about 9 all the way through the rpm band.

 

[strongbear0]

both races are at stock boost ?

Stock for me. Like I said earlier with all my mods if I turn off the greddy profec b the car will boost to 8.3-8.8 and hold at about 8 throughout. For those races I had the profec b on low setting and was holding about 9psi. I am easy on my car, I don't really beat on it and I do not turn up the boost. I will be cranking it up when I get my internals and my mpi tuner in. Which should be in about three weeks, cp should be making my pistons now and mpi has all the onther stuff in stock waiting on the pistons.

 

[03MSPRO]

All I can say is what I've seen and from what I have seen I think the begi fmic looks like crap. I don't like the way it sits in the bumper opening it looks odd. I think the perrin kit has the most direst pipe routing, largest core, best made core and is geared towards the person who will be boosting high 15psi and over. The begi one could be really nice but it's not my style. Plus it might be geared to get maximum performance on a stock msp, I do not have a stock msp and in a couple of months I will have forged internal, engine management, extra injectors, ported and polished exhaust manifold and a rebuilt turbo that will be capable of flowing 350whp. At that point I will be boosting 18psi daily and hopefully will be putting down 300+ to the wheels. This kit was right for me, it might not be the right one for everyone.

I don't know what you've seen. I have the ONLY BEGi. It is nice enough for me!! Of course the begi cannot support 400 hp, but it was tested on my car which is boosting 10-11 psi and it did very well. Did I say the begi is only $749?
I guess it all depends on your goals for the car.

 

[strongbear0]

I personally don't like the look of the begi kit. And what's the point in buying a fmic and still using the crappy stock intercooler pipe.

 

[strongbear0]

And I have seen the begi kit because you posted it on here.

 

[Bhamsan]

The only thing holding me back from the Perrin FMIC 100% is the price of the BEGi FMIC. I already have a hardpipe that I can use with a BOV flange welded on, so the BEGi FMIC would be an excellent upgrade for my setup. However, the PErrin FMIC has polished pipes and a huge core, but costs a ton. I'm still 50/50 on the fence for either, as they both look very nice. I'd really prefer a core like iON's with the endtanks showing and symmetrical, but the piping sucks and customer service is even worse, that and I want to get it while I still own my car.

Both FMICs are very nice however, and if it wasn't for the price, I'd be all over Perrin. I really need to upgrade my IC at this point.

I guess it was only a matter of time before a BEGi vs Perrin FMIC thread came up...

 

[strongbear0]

The only thing holding me back from the Perrin FMIC 100% is the price of the BEGi FMIC. I already have a hardpipe that I can use with a BOV flange welded on, so the BEGi FMIC would be an excellent upgrade for my setup. However, the PErrin FMIC has polished pipes and a huge core, but costs a ton. I'm still 50/50 on the fence for either, as they both look very nice. I'd really prefer a core like iON's with the endtanks showing and symmetrical, but the piping sucks and customer service is even worse, that and I want to get it while I still own my car.

Both FMICs are very nice however, and if it wasn't for the price, I'd be all over Perrin. I really need to upgrade my IC at this point.

I guess it was only a matter of time before a BEGi vs Perrin FMIC thread came up...

This isn't a begi vs perrin thread. There is no comparison. I had a pannauto fmic and once again there is no comparison. Basically you buy the best or you buy some other fmic. When it comes to my car I figured what the hell, I have already spent like 6k and by the time I am done it will be around 10k so why go cheap when it comes to the most important part. That is probably the same reason I ordered cp pistons and oliver rods instead of je pistons and pauter rods. I want all the best parts on my car and that's why I switched. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. All this stuff just happens to be my opinion.

 

[FSDET]

so did u get it centered ?

 

[Bhamsan]

I was trying to make a price value comparison. Sure, Perrin is the best, but it also costs the most. Not everyone here can afford the best, and everyone else has different goals for the car. Sure, BEGi's FMIC may not be able to handle over 400whp, but for the price of a Perrin FMIC, you can also get a GHL downpipe and some motor mounts, or whatever. So what I'm trying to get at (this is my point, so don' miss it), for the money, which IC is better? Perrin eats a big hole in your pocket, and for people who aren't so blessed financially, a BEGi FMIC might not be a bad choice. You may think it is crap, but I don't. Hell, I even wrote in my sig that I want a Perrin FMIC. Your plans are looking to make your car into the fastest MSP in the world, while mine aren't so ambitious. So for those people like me, who may be on the fence, don't discredit the BEGi, or any FMIC for that matter. The numbers look good, and like I said, not everyone has the financial resources to make this car into a 400whp machine. If I did have that money, I'd sell this car and I'd be driving a 2jz-gte Supra.

 

[strongbear0]

so did u get it centered ?

No I have not had time. I was installing the mpi tuner today and will be centering the perrin on thursday.

 

[strongbear0]

I was trying to make a price value comparison. Sure, Perrin is the best, but it also costs the most. Not everyone here can afford the best, and everyone else has different goals for the car. Sure, BEGi's FMIC may not be able to handle over 400whp, but for the price of a Perrin FMIC, you can also get a GHL downpipe and some motor mounts, or whatever. So what I'm trying to get at (this is my point, so don' miss it), for the money, which IC is better? Perrin eats a big hole in your pocket, and for people who aren't so blessed financially, a BEGi FMIC might not be a bad choice. You may think it is crap, but I don't. Hell, I even wrote in my sig that I want a Perrin FMIC. Your plans are looking to make your car into the fastest MSP in the world, while mine aren't so ambitious. So for those people like me, who may be on the fence, don't discredit the BEGi, or any FMIC for that matter. The numbers look good, and like I said, not everyone has the financial resources to make this car into a 400whp machine. If I did have that money, I'd sell this car and I'd be driving a 2jz-gte Supra.

Well if I had the money fo a twin turbo supra I would get it, but I don't. In fact I am a starving college student and don't have a ton of money I just know how to save money and I have a knack for people giving me s***. I never said it was crap I said I didn't like the way the begi kit looked.

 

[FSDET]

I was trying to make a price value comparison. Sure, Perrin is the best, but it also costs the most. Not everyone here can afford the best, and everyone else has different goals for the car. Sure, BEGi's FMIC may not be able to handle over 400whp, but for the price of a Perrin FMIC, you can also get a GHL downpipe and some motor mounts, or whatever. So what I'm trying to get at (this is my point, so don' miss it), for the money, which IC is better? Perrin eats a big hole in your pocket, and for people who aren't so blessed financially, a BEGi FMIC might not be a bad choice. You may think it is crap, but I don't. Hell, I even wrote in my sig that I want a Perrin FMIC. Your plans are looking to make your car into the fastest MSP in the world, while mine aren't so ambitious. So for those people like me, who may be on the fence, don't discredit the BEGi, or any FMIC for that matter. The numbers look good, and like I said, not everyone has the financial resources to make this car into a 400whp machine. If I did have that money, I'd sell this car and I'd be driving a 2jz-gte Supra.

no ones telling u not to buy the begi.