Subaru vs. Mazda

[ColoradoDriver]

1987 Trans Am (with the 5.7 litre detuned Corvette engine *insert Tim Allen growl MAH AAH MAH).

 

[finch204]

I did not realize that Subarus were a little more maintenance prone based on posts on this thread. I was actually looking into getting a WRX after I let go of my Speed3. If I remember correctly, there is/was a lawsuit against Subaru for the WRX/Sti cars that have head gasket issues. The complaint is that the engine will break down once you get past the warranty period. Anyway, as far the Forester vs the CX-5, other than mild interest on the Forester XT (which unfortunately has a CVT), the CX-5 seems to be the better daily driver, unless you need more cargo space or want less blind spots.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

My Mom's Crosstrek she got a few years ago, I drove it once. Hated it. Was dog slow, really had to gun it to go anywhere, and even then you weren't going anywhere fast.

 

[7eregrine]

LOL CD.

Can we just be done with this topic already.

Sorry, man, I'll stop. Some child going to tell me what's proper when driving because he can't drive for s***...... grumble grumble...

 

[ColoradoDriver]

LOL CD.



Sorry, man, I'll stop. Some child going to tell me what's proper when driving because he can't drive for s***...... grumble grumble...

(iagree)

As for the topic at hand. Just not a Subaru guy. Too many bad memories of slowpoke green Outbacks playing "keepers of the speed" in the left lane, with the car on the right and everyone stuck behind them.

 

[jthj]

If you look at the scheduled maintenance for Subaru it is definitely high. My buddy has an Outback and there are several that end up being over a grand at the dealer. I want to say one was even 2k.

 

[jthj]

(iagree)

As for the topic at hand. Just not a Subaru guy. Too many bad memories of slowpoke green Outbacks playing "keepers of the speed" in the left lane, with the car on the right and everyone stuck behind them.

Funny enough my buddy who owns an Outback actually got pulled over for doing exactly that! The cop told gave him a warning for obstructing traffic. I wish they would do that more often.

 

[GJ-Molestor]

Again, how old are you GJ? Because you sound like a kid. 22? 25?


I can't even believe this comment. Not exactly anything worth being proud about but yes, I can tell you I've gotten by in a WORSE climate then you live in with FWD cars and all season tires. It's true! There were even at least 10 years where I got by in Winter with RWD cars! I know, your young mind is probably blown right now because your BMW was such a cow in the winter that it scared you into buying snow tires. But hey man... some of us CAN DRIVE. Sure, RWD living in Cleveland Ohio is no picnic. Sure, I was actually stuck downtown one night because my 1987 Trans Am (with the 5.7 litre detuned Corvette engine *insert Tim Allen growl MAH AAH MAH) couldn't get up any of the downtown on ramps... yea, I literally couldn't get up them...I had to back down. Luckily my job was cool and put me up at Stouffers Hotel or the night... ******* STOUFFERS...a $200/night hotel!...but I digress...
Did I ever wind up in a ditch? In my 1974 Firebird? In my 1987 Trans Am? In my 1982 Firebird? In my 1987 V8 Ford Thunderbird?
No.
Did I ever wind up in a ditch in any of those cars?
No.
Did I ever in any way pose a danger to anyone else?
No.
Did I have issues getting around some times? Sure. But I was smart about it. Maybe I wouldn't go out that night. Maybe I'd wait a few hours for plows to do thier business.


Ah bulls***.

bulls***. Have you heard of FWD? Wow what a difference THAT made when I sold the Thunderbird and got a 1994 Saab 900. OH your RWD BMW sucked in winter? Really? I'm shocked by this...
And snow tires are the only answer? Just stop.

Ohhhhh, one time. Dude, get over your wonderful self.

Times have changed since your bad 40 year old thunderbird came out. Tell me that my BMW isn’t good in poor weather conditions after watching these:

 

[7eregrine]

I loved that 30 year old car.

 

[jthj]

 

[Buzzman12]

Me: After I split from my second wife, I realized that my first wife was right: I AM the problem.
Molester: After I got hammered by the second Mazda forum, I realized that the first Mazda forum was right: I AM the problem.

 

[jthj]

GJ I really think you need to just do you and move on.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Plus once youre familiar you dont have to fumble. You downshift before so that when you hit the gas its more instant and you have more precise control. In my opinion anyway. My other car has a manual so there is that too.

(iagree) - my left hand falls automatically onto it

 

[Xeler8ing]

 

[jthj]

(iagree) - my left hand falls automatically onto it

Well that’s because you drive on the wrong side but I digress.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Well that’s because you drive on the wrong side but I digress.

You drive on other side, I drive on the right side

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Me: After I split from my second wife, I realized that my first wife was right: I AM the problem.
Molester: After I got hammered by the second Mazda forum, I realized that the first Mazda forum was right: I AM the problem.

Ah yes, "Get Inline" from Mazda6Club? It was hilarious to see all the same threads posted there and them basically tell him the same thing.

 

[GJ-Molestor]

I loved that 30 year old car.

you can't possibly look at those two videos and tell me that a RWD BMW doesnt handle snow well. you will obviously have issues with traction if the snow is very deep, but any good-handling modern RWD car tests your driver skill with careful throttle, steering and braking input to the very limit and the results are astounding. the best part is that when driving civilized in the snow, the car steered and braked excellent and the rear end would never need to be corrected unless you go too hot into a corner and hit the brake before turning in, or stab the throttle as soon as you turn the car in and even then. it was so easy to control. the old Thunderbird you had is a lovely looking car and theres absolutely nothing wrong with the way it handled, but chassis balance and stability has come quite a long way over the next few decades that a BMW equipped with good winter tires is immensely capable while being very fun to drive.

I will admit, that my BMW was a death trap in the snow with all seasons because they were very bad tires and also quite worn which is why the car handled terribly initially. (funnily enough if you were going fast enough for aerodynamics to glue the car into the ground it drove quite well) another benefit of having winter tires - instead of having mediocore, or "just enough" grip year round and the convenience of not needing to switch tires, I can mount some proper summer tires when it's warm out and then switch to winter tires when the weather becomes cold so I can make the most out of my RWD chassis.as long as you have some sort of all-seasons that can actually handle snow, your AWD mazda will get around just fine without winter tires.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Mine's better (see above)!

 

[7eregrine]

you can't possibly look at those two videos and tell me that a RWD BMW doesnt handle snow well.

I never said it didn't. All I said was "I loved the Thunderbird". It was a great car.
Oh, and it was a 97, not 98.
Back of mah bird baby!