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nazgul350r said:
Just got the diff in...first 60 street miles...Mmmm...Can't wait to toss it around some cones
Ryan
I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me here. Why not get the D2s which have 32 levels of adjustment and also have "racing" in thier brand name? I would love to see the Megans on a shock dyno. I have a copy of the dyno Koni NA did on a set of EVO JIC A2s that were used on a National Solo car. None of the valvings were similar among the 4 struts, and the adjustments had little effect on actual damping. These were brand new unit. JICs "customer service" would not return any calls regarding this.
I have not run Megans on any car, so I guess they could be the greatest thing on the planet, but why have I never heard of them being used on any car that is nationally competitive?
BTW, I have "Threaded shock coilover system with spring, adjustment mechanism, and shocks" that were specifically valved by Bilstein considering my car's corner weights, my spring rates, my motion ratios, and other factors. I know what a true racing coilover is, mine have pillow block adjustments as well, and have proven themselves in more that enough Speed World Challenge events. I don't recall any Megan equipped cars placing, or actually competing for that matter.
BTW remember that a stock C6 Z06 Vette with Bilsteins set the sixth fastest time ever recorded at Nurburgring last year, only a few seconds behind Nikki Lauda's 917 record.
I wonder if Chevrolet knows that they could have gone faster with Megans.
Not to rain on your parade, but I look forward to competing against you if you should choose to come out and play.
Maybe all the guys that have dumped 10k into Motons, Penskes and Ohlins will all cry at the comparison to the Megans.
This shouldn't come to a big giant flamewar, but I'd like to see some proof behind the bold statements you make regarding Megans. Shock dynos, race results...anything. Until then,
Britt
In fact, I will donate money to the forums for a forum sponsored racing contingency program. People donate money, and whomever places the highest in the most SCCA national events gets the pot at the end of the year. Like a pledge drive. We could devise some kind of points thing, I don't know how that would work. Anyone else interested?
Britt
Britt
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whoa whoa whoa I have no clue where the hostility is comign from britt...i did nothing to insult your setup or your intelligence! I apologize if you felt insulted by my coilover description, I wasn't implying you were an idiot or didn't know suspension systems, all I was doing was making sure everyone was on the same page, as I'm willing to bet half the people that read this thread have no clue what a true coilover system is, the only reason I atatched your name to it was to respond to your post 2 threads up with question marks... Bold statements? I have no clue where that came from either...I said this "megans is actually one of the best...well dsm wise..." notice it says dsm wise, I made no general conclusions nor did I say your setup was crap or anything... perhaps you took that out of context??? Now on the d2 racing statement, if you base your purchases on if the company has "racing" in the name then you're in for some sad times, that beign said I paraphrased the name its actually Megan's Racing (or perhaps I have misuderstood that statement?)...so I guess they're ok now b/c they have racing in the title? As far as racing your car against one of mine would be apples to oranges(before you take that out of context I'll clarify that we soley race NASA roadracing events and would get slaughtered in lower speed scca auto-x events) ...but if you're in the SE just give me a call and I'd have no problem taking you out on road america or sebring for a spin to critique my setup...
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Hehe, jeff I agree on that one(most "popular" kits having matching issues)...I've never used the drift kit though... I also agree that a good shock/spring combo does make a difference at any speed...perhaps I should of clarified...what I was attempting to imply was that that difference becomes more evident at higher speeds...case in point I would be hard pressed to feel the difference between a koni yellow/ground control vs. a FLT setup at speeds under 60 and corners under 20...but I would 100% after 1 lap at road america be able to tell you which one the car was wearing...
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Hehe hence why I said I would be hardpressed...even though I road race, I'm by no means a top tier driver as would be the drivers competing in the national championship series...so for me to notice the difference I would have to drive the car harder and at higher speeds....also i clearly spelled out that it becomes MORE evident at higher speeds...i didnt say it didn't matter, but to the average amatuer driver I would be inclined to say there is a higher chance of them noticing the difference doing a chicane at 50 vs 20...i think the problem here is you think im belittling or bashing autox, which I'm not...also it should be mentioned that I gear the majority of my comments and suggestions to the average amatuer/skilled amatuer audience...jeff for example is what I consider a professional driver and could probably tell the difference between a #550lb springs and a #525lb spring, whereas the audience I'm commenting towards would not. so to answer your question lowpsi no I don't think its a waste of money at those levels, but to a 16yr old who just got his car and goes to the track for the first time, it would mean peanuts...
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Actually the valving in the struts is way more important in certain AutoX situations than on a road course. In both instances the cars suspensions can be put to the extremes, but in AutoX those extremes happen much faster. The transfer of weight from one part of the car to another in AutoX is usually much more violent than in roadracing and the sturts have to account for that.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1094109710780318832&q=sias
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man, people who auto-x are just so lame...(ugh)xelderx said:
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no prob xeld...and I agree auto-x is a lot more "turn violent" then the sweeping corners we get on road events...thats one of the reasons I never got into auto-x..every car I've owned seemed to run better on the high speed, "longer" turns of road racing then the tight hairpins of auto-x...
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well the 1g talon has the dreaded p/s cutout...so no autox for it...and the vette seemed a little "long" on some of the tight corners...the 914 and the gt3 welll hehe those were built for the road racing scene so no argument there....
