Stock MSP sub question

blthlt

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1995 Eagle Talon TSi
What would you guys say is the "perfect/optimal" box volume for this sub? I plan to do a custom install with this. Please explain why you think what you do. For those who say to scrap the MSP sub go scrap yourself off of a cliff b/c I don't give a s*** about your opinon of the stock sub. I want to retain stock equipment. Thanks! everyone else who provides feedback.
 
WTF? I don't get it. If you want to retain stock equipment then just keep it in the stock box. If you are going to go through the effort of building a new box then upgrade to a pair of 8"s, a 10", or a 12".

What is the purpose of your custom install?

I don't know the optimal volume but I'm guessing it is between .3 and .5 cuft. The larger you go, the deeper it will play but the less volume you will get out of it. Check out Kenwood's website or contact them for more specific information.
 
blthlt said:
What would you guys say is the "perfect/optimal" box volume for this sub? I plan to do a custom install with this. Please explain why you think what you do. For those who say to scrap the MSP sub go scrap yourself off of a cliff b/c I don't give a s*** about your opinon of the stock sub. I want to retain stock equipment. Thanks! everyone else who provides feedback.

i know you!! :)

get the model # of the sub and find its specs online, it should tell you box size
 
the MSP enclosure is the optimum size to the point that making a slightly larger or smaller enclosure will yeild no improvements.

Also, I have never been able to find that models info online as it in an 8 ohm model. I have only ever been able to guess what it is.

You can build a 1000 different enclosure in the trunk and the improvements will be negligable at best. To really do something better with that sub you will have to do something drastic like cut out a hole for it on the rear deck so it fires into the car and build an enclosure around it or make a fiberglass foot well enclosure on the passangers side.
I would really hate to see you go through the trouble of a truely custom install for a $60 subwoofer. By all means its your time and money but if I was doing that much work I would want something that sounded better then what I started with at very least.

I would go with .5 cubic feet for a sealed box. If you want, you can be more to the factory specs and get your hands on some packing peanuts. Fill the stock peanuts into the stock enclosure until its full, then measure the volume of peanuts you remove and convert it to sq. ft. Then you will have the factory boxes size exactly.

Good Luck.
 
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1sty said:
the MSP enclosure is the optimum size to the point that making a slightly larger or smaller enclosure will yeild no improvements.

Also, I have never been able to find that models info online as it in an 8 ohm model. I have only ever been able to guess what it is.

You can build a 1000 different enclosure in the trunk and the improvements will be negligable at best. To really do something better with that sub you will have to do something drastic like cut out a hole for it on the rear deck so it fires into the car and build an enclosure around it or make a fiberglass foot well enclosure on the passangers side.
I would really hate to see you go through the trouble of a truely custom install for a $60 subwoofer. By all means its your time and money but if I was doing that much work I would want something that sounded better then what I started with at very least.

I would go with .5 cubic feet for a sealed box. If you want, you can be more to the factory specs and get your hands on some packing peanuts. Fill the stock peanuts into the stock enclosure until its full, then measure the volume of peanuts you remove and convert it to sq. ft. Then you will have the factory boxes size exactly.

Good Luck.
Well the whole idea is for me to gather what the optimal size box is. I am doing a custom install not with just 1 of these but 4 possibly 5. I will be building the enclosure this weekend and just wanted some ideas on what everyone thinks the best volume for the box would be. Thanks for the posts guys.
 
blthlt said:
Well the whole idea is for me to gather what the optimal size box is. I am doing a custom install not with just 1 of these but 4 possibly 5. I will be building the enclosure this weekend and just wanted some ideas on what everyone thinks the best volume for the box would be. Thanks for the posts guys.

Who are you getting the subs from?
I assume other MSP owners as the sub is no longer sold?
 
1sty said:
Who are you getting the subs from?
I assume other MSP owners as the sub is no longer sold?
Correct, I already have 4 possibly getting the 5th here local.
 
And I have the amps too. So that'd be 4 or 5 of the stock 8's with 4 or 5 of the stock amps.
 
It's more for the ability to say "I have all stock MSP audio componets" to me than it is the BOOM BOOM factor. My hearing is already perminately damaged from the days I had my S10.
 
fill the stock enclosure with water, pour into measuring bucket, take the cubic root of the water's volume (in cc, mL or cm cubed). The result is the measurement one side in cm for a perfect cube of the same volume.
 
chuyler1 said:
Since the stock sub is 8 ohms and the amp handles a 4 ohm load you can actually power two of these with a single amp. It will yield the same result as powering them with a separate amp because dropping to 4ohms will double the amp's output.

If you've got enough of them, you can always do a free-air install...
http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=6593&g2_page=2

I bet 4 8"s would fit across the rear deck of the MSP.

YEAH!, use 10 8"s

4 8s will fit across the back deck. Or atleast they do between the wheel wells.
 
ok, so I made the box and stuffed the 4 8's in there with the 4 amps and I have to say I AM IMPRESSED by the stock "sucky" subs. The box measurements are 37 x 16 3/4 x 8 1/2. I'll post up pictures it if people request.
 
chuyler1 said:
Since the stock sub is 8 ohms and the amp handles a 4 ohm load you can actually power two of these with a single amp. It will yield the same result as powering them with a separate amp because dropping to 4ohms will double the amp's output.

It's actually handling a 3 ohm in mine right now, and dimming the lights. It gets damn hot, but I don't care if I kill it, lol. Had to replace a fuse once so far. w00t
 
Ok, here's the box in the car I'm still yet to create the false wall (faceplate if you will) for the enclosure. I also have to tidy up the wiring I just threw that together for the time being.
 
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yea, though I built the box using 1/2" MDF so I thought this way was better for the strength of the box. I used some center braces to beef up the structural integrity of the box.
 
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