SRT-4 Jumping???

Plenty of Stage 2 w/ toys cars are running 13.1s.

Britt
 
another thing to consider is the SRT guys really are not that much faster than us. There breaking 12's and 11 in somecase's however we are nipping at there feet and soon people like jonboy and others will be right up there too. We just have to give the msp a chance..
 
For me it is simple- LOOKS. The SRT is simply ugly as hell. A turd that can run 13's...I think the msp is the best looking car in its class. Some of the other factors would be price, i paid 17 for my MSP, most people pay at least 21 for the dodge. The invoice of the base WRX is 22.9 (this can be had by all by joining one of many clubs for 6 months that cost about 20.00 a year, call the VIP program), and in my opinion a better buy in that price range.
 
oh my god why did I go to that page? Its very unsettling reading those times...given how much we are struggling with 240whp.
 
yeah & u dont have to worry as much with the srt if the engine or turbo is gonna go (if u put up the boost) ;)
 
... and it always comes down to the same s*** - Always!!. The 1/4 mile! What a bloody boring thing the 1/4 mile is. (chair)
 
jred321 said:
11's/12's are much cheaper and easier to come by in an ls1 camaro. it's really not even worth arguing though
i wasn't arguing, i was making sure he knows what SRT4s are running these days.
 
Don't get me wrong, if the MSP came with a little bit more power, MAJORITY of us would be Sold! Handling + Power = Whats an SRT Wha? But from reading you'll posts and listening to what ya'll had to say...it seems like a few owners are a lil dissapointed with the MSP.
 
AGR said:
... and it always comes down to the same s*** - Always!!. The 1/4 mile! What a bloody boring thing the 1/4 mile is. (chair)
You know I can only think of american that is overly "worried" about their 1/4 mile time. I think this is the only country in the world that worries about their car's 1/4 mile time, every where else it's 0-100km and how well the car handles. And that's why there's the SRT-4
 
I looked at and drove the SRT-4 but bought the MSP. So far the closest one has gotten to me, both of us stock, on an autocross course is 1.9 sec on a 52 sec course. I also don't have some of the issues he has with his car's interior.
 
Let me second that on the MSP over the SRT-4 at autox. I'm leading DS over my friend's SRT-4 and usually beat him by 1 to 2 seconds on 50 second courses. He keeps shaking his head at how much faster I am. I have the opportunity this weekend to wrap up the DS championship for the year. Oh Yeah!!!
 
Focus said:
Let me rephrase what I said. And BTW I have several friends with SRT-4s.

In my OWN experience, driving both vehicles. Yes the SRT-4 has power but it will not handle as well. My Mazdaspeed is also in the 13's on the 1/4.


And the quality is piss poor. Just the other day at the track my buddy broke 3 studs just removing the nuts so he can put his slicks on. He is always complaining about some thing on the car.

You can bring me 100 articles that say this and that about each one of the cars. Nothing beats actually driving them both and comparing.

Slap on a set of the of the Mopar/KW Variant coilovers, and the SRT-4 becomes quite a handler. Out of the box, no its not the best handling car. Its hampered by poor shock tuning, little/zero negative camber, and skinny tires. All of that can be fixed, and make it into a great car.

If your buddy is always complaining about the car, tell him to just sell it. Studs shouldn't be breaking unless he's overtorquing the lug nuts.
 
I like them both! Either way, you are happy. Both great cars. I like to use the "Saved by the Bell" analogy when comparing these cars. The MSP is like Zack, knows how to handle situations, snazzy dresser, all around well balanced cool guy (the MSP is unable to stop time to analyze social situations however). The SRT4 is like A.C. Slater, very powerful football player, not as crafty as Zack or as good a dresser, but can still handle himself around the school and run s***. Both are cool popular dudes who get chicks and always save the day in the end...whether it be on the Autocross course or fixing Mr. Belding's car before he realizes Screech crashed it going to the spring dance. So when it came down to deciding what car was right for me...I just asked myself...am I a Zack or a Slater? Maybe you all should ask yourself that question as well.
 
Yes, but if he does all that to make it handle, it is no longer stock. At least for SCCA autocrossing anyway. I am still running the stock Bridgestone tires. They keep asking me what I did to the car, I keep telling them, I tinted the windows.
 

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