SRT-4 Jumping???

[srtchick]

Not true at all (insurance) i checked on it already & its like 5 bucks more a year, & its not like im keeping it for years & years anyway just play with it for a year then on to the next (lol2)(enguard)

As many have pointed out, the bang for the buck thing is the biggest reason why to swtich over. But as others have pointed out the SRT is alwasy in need of being fixed, insurance is sky high so your paying a cheap amount to buy it but then your spending the amount you would on a car double its price to maintain and keep the car.

 

[TampaBlackMSP]

This is probably the first MSP/SRT thread I've read where maturity and intelligent comments rule! I'm so proud of everyone...

I'm like others though - the ONLY cars I'd trade mine for (no particular order, I'd have to drive them): STI, EVO, R32, 350, RX8. I have a feeling I'd have serious buyer's remorse after owning an SRT (but that's a guess, not a proclamation!).

All in all I'm pretty happy with my MSP - and nothing beats the limited production aspect!! (2thumbs)

 

[AGR]

This is probably the first MSP/SRT thread I've read where maturity and intelligent comments rule! I'm so proud of everyone...

I'm like others though - the ONLY cars I'd trade mine for (no particular order, I'd have to drive them): STI, EVO, R32, 350, RX8. I have a feeling I'd have serious buyer's remorse after owning an SRT (but that's a guess, not a proclamation!).

All in all I'm pretty happy with my MSP - and nothing beats the limited production aspect!! (2thumbs)

I Concur! (2thumbs)

 

[xtrememps]

Well, I was thinking about taking a nice vacation...lol (yes)

come and play with my evo tehehehe...... lol

anyways, comeon guys the neon is fast but puts down WAY to much torque. My buddy at work has a neon that he blows each and every paycheck on. He has so much torque that he cant get traction even with the largest tires on the market. (im talking slicks at that) in order to use all this super power he just had to have and what most people seem to think is GREAT he will have to cut his car all to hell. The point is sure you can get power galore but you dont have the traction to play with it. He only runs a 12.9 or 12.8 with well into the 300 hp. I personal dont like it but then again im a rally or auto x kinnda guy. The craftsmenship of the car's chassis is horried. Plus that car always seem to have to be tooled on. MY buddy seems to always have to fix something. Im not just talking about results of power im talking about just crap like windshield wipers, interior etc. Oh did I mention when I test drove a stock one before I bought the msp the car felt more raggady than a 92 civic cx I used to have?

 

[redwagon02]

I'd trade in my protege5 for an SRT-4. But I have been making car payments for 12 straights years('92 saturn sc, '92 mustang gt, '94 civic coupe ex, '95 splash sc + '95 miata, '99 10ae miata + '02 p5).

I wanna know it feels to not have a car note. That's the only thing that keeps me from getting one.

 

[M=SP^2]

I just don't undestand people willing to take such a big financial hit by trading in their car after having it for less then a year. Whatever tickles you pickle I guess (dunno)

 

[4001]

by the time i graduate, evo MR will come out.

If Mistsubishi is still making cars

 

[4001]

Not true at all (insurance) i checked on it already & its like 5 bucks more a year, & its not like im keeping it for years & years anyway just play with it for a year then on to the next

I was just saying in in a general sense, and for you its cheap but someone else who checked out a quoted saw a rather decent increase ( Not true at all? ) and others have first hand experience with seeing their friends always reparing something with their SRT-4

 

[122 Vega]

You guys are all missing one very important difference in these cars...insurance. The srt-4 is about double the monthly rate of the MSP. Why? Because the srt-4 has become so popular among ricer-boys, that the accident rate is sky-high. Add to that the fact that the average age of the srt-4 owner is 18, as compared to 22 for the msp. For example, my rate @ progressive is $76 a month. When I called and asked about the same coverage they quoted me $152! So if I were you, I'd take that into consideration.

Well, my insurance is cheaper on the SRT by about $6 per month. The way they come up with the cost is a per capita ratio. A lot more SRTs were built, a lot more were wrecked. Few MSPs, few wrecked. The ratio is similar. My insurance went up $3 per month on the MSP after one year, State Farm adjusted it after the number of claims in that first year.

I put my Hotchkis bars on last night, and the SRT handling was way better. If you read GRM this month, Mark Daddio states that it is the most difficult car to drive that he has ever experienced.

I will continue to prefer my MSP over the SRT. It looks better, handles way better, the shifter is better, the stereo is better. The only thing IMO that the SRT has over the MSP is drivability. Not necessarily the power, but the way it is delivered. It is nice and smooth until the boost bleed hits. It is polite in traffic, and never gets heat soak.

"Too much torque" what the hell is too much torque?

My MSP still gets about 2500 miles per month, the SRT is 2 months old and I have 900 miles on it. To make the car's handling acceptable, I have done the swaybars, and will be doing springs and Tokicos and strut bars very soon.

To all who say that $2k into the MSP will smoke an SRT, that is probably true. But $2k into the SRT and it will smoke the MSP. Food for thought.
Britt

 

[MrFoggy]

One word: Bandwagon.

 

[mp5jeff]

haha yet another msp vs. srt-4 thread, from now on they should be deleted upon start IMO...this has been beaten to DEATH already.

 

[jred321]

why would anyone spend that much on an srt when you can get a nice 2002 s4 for about the same price? that's what i'm jumping ship to as of now, won't be for a few months though probably

 

[II-Savy]

why would anyone spend that much on an srt when you can get a nice 2002 s4 for about the same price? that's what i'm jumping ship to as of now, won't be for a few months though probably

Word, I love S4's. Only trouble is when they break, it's big bucks to fix. Even small things that go wrong will be 100's to fix. German cars are nice but expensive to fix.

 

[mp5jeff]

yep, i remember when a piece of weatherstripping came unglued from my ml320 on the sunroof and it was already at the dealership so i asked if they could go ahead and put a new one on, they told me it would be like 150 dollars, for a piece of 2 dollar weatherstripping...i basically laughed and said forget it and glued it back myself(took 5 mins)

 

[Mx6GT91]

Heres what I think about the SRT-4, people always get mad when others say "Its just a Neon"

Well it still is. The only thing that makes it good is the motor. The motor wasnt even made for the Neon. It was made for the PT Cruiser and then it was desided to put it in the Neon to boost fallen sales.
It has the cheapest interior Ive seen. Stock Neon stereo, no rear powered windows and ugly ass gauges that some seem to like.

The exterior, I will admit they look somewhat nice on the outside when the wing is removed and there dropped. It pretty much looks like a kitted Neon with a stolen Supra wing. The rims, ugggh. They do look good painted black. I do like the blue ones though, maybe its just the color that catches me. If you think about it the blue and the yellow look pretty similar to the MSP blue and yellow. Theres just lots more flake in the MSP's which gives them a plus on the looks side.

There was a post on Orlandoforums about what car woud you buy. The SRT-4 or the MSP. The MSP won, it all came down to looks and handling over performance. Of course there was some, well actually a lot that wanted performance. It ended up being 7pages long.

Heres the results out of 56 voters.
MSP - 53.57%
SRT - 46.43%

 

[brianseto]

Upgrades

Now this debate begs the question...

Would it be better to buy an MSP and upgrade for HP and speed, since we know the MSP outhandles the SRT-4

OR

Would it be better to buy an SRT-4 and upgrade the suspension, since we know the SRT-4 spanks the MSP in the straight line

BTW...The reason why I chose the MSP is because during the test drive, I just felt CONNECTED to the car. Everything from the steering, handling, shifting (albeit notchy, it was easy to tell when it was time to shift, and I like the way the clutch feels...) I test drove a WRX, and while the WRX makes more power, in stock form, it just felt a lot more disconnected than the MSP

And one more thing...
I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED!

 

[AGR]

And one more thing...
I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED!

I concur! When I bought mine (Jan. '03) - best bang for the buck + some! And; if they still made the 'Speed, I think it would hold true today! (thumb)

 

[mp5jeff]

Heres what I think about the SRT-4, people always get mad when others say "Its just a Neon"

Well it still is. The only thing that makes it good is the motor.

what about the transmission in them, you know it isn't a stock neon tranny, or maybe you don't...that's why them seem to hold 600hp and not break...

 

[redwagon02]

what about the transmission in them, you know it isn't a stock neon tranny, or maybe you don't...that's why them seem to hold 600hp and not break...

yeah man, tell him about the boost gauge too.

 

[vodapas77]

yeah man, tell him about the boost gauge too.

(lol)

Oooo don't forget the seats!