So when is the next best time to buy a 2014 MZ3?

I read about people getting incredible year-end deals in late December when dealers were trying to meet year end quotas. Right now there doesn't appear to be much out there for incentives. What is the next date when dealerships are under the wire to make quotas & hungry to sell cars? End of the month, end of the quarter, or does it vary from region to region and dealership to dealership?

0.9 financing doesn't interest me much. I am looking to make a straight cash transaction and not in any rush. Been waiting three years for the right car to come along. I almost bought a Ford Focus ST a couple of times but it's not an exact fit for my needs, though the ST is an amazing ride for the right person.
 
My roommate has an ST, I don't like the looks of it nearly as much as the 3, but it's a much nicer car inside than my 3 Sport, and way faster.
 
The 3 is Mazda's best seller, you will not see too much in the way of incentives, especially since the car is doing well. You will have to go out and make your best deal or find someone with S-Plan with Mazda.
 
In sweden there is 6-7 months delivery time at the moment if you can't find anyone you like at your dealer/there is anything coming in that you like...

So i guess they are selling to much of it in Europe.

And you won't see any sell outs. If you are taking a loan from them maybe you can get a little lower cause they get paid to sell that...

Edit, i missed that you pay in cash, if you do and don't have a car you sell to them you can get a little bit discount, atleast here.
But othervise normally in March-April there is spring sellouts, more people looking for new cars, dealers knows it and try to get your attention, plus they don't need to include those winter tyres.

But the best deals is made in November-December, if they have any of model 14 left and 2015 model is knocking on there doors.
 
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I don't know about buying cars in Sweden, but here in the Midwest some people reported amazing year-end deals on 2014 MZ3 iGT 6MT hatchbacks: CXPMAZ wrote he got his iGT in late December for $22,499. Izalgo wrote he got his iGT for $22,426 before taxes, title fees, etc. MSRP for these vehicles is $24,040. Invoice is $23,400 with basic paint and no other options added.

I understand dealerships sink-or-swim by quotas. The pressure to sell that last car putting them over quota must be intense, even to the point of taking a loss on a vehicle. Buyer's side negotiating involves knowing when the salesman is most strongly motivated, i.e. knowing when yours might be that last car and how much time before the deadline. I understand some quotas are so ridiculously high that dealerships don't even try to beat; instead, they postpone the sale by not budging on MSRP, etc. The same dealer may have a completely different approach a week or a month later.

How are people managing to get 2014 iGTs > $900 below invoice, other than being extremely lucky in finding a dealer who is willing to take a loss? Or does MZ3 "invoice" have > $900 of profit padding?
 
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Hey WildMidwest

From my experience, which is not extensive but it seems to work for me, the best time to buy is within the first few months of release or after a year or so.
When a car is first released, the manufacturer/dealer wants to get cars on the road (what better buzz?). If the car is a hit, it will take a year or so for a competitor to match it and the buzz will die down and the prices drop/deals occur. Look at the Ford Focus which is a fine car but has been out a while now and they are offering like $2,000 customer cash. I drove it, liked it, but did not compare to the Mazda and reliability was not there historically from Ford.

Since most new cars hit in the fall and most dealers want to make year end goals, the end of December is a great time to buy. After all who wants the hassle of buying a car when they are focused on Christmas shopping? ...uhhh me ;)

That said deals still can be had...

1) Know what you want but be flexible where you can
For example, I want a Mazda3 iGT 6MT but I could care less if it is a sedan or hatchback and any color is fine but silver.
The goal here is to find a car that most dealers will have on the lot. By the way, if your goal is a manual transmission, you are already are asking for a uncommon car in an iGT trim (my experience).

2) Throw a wide net
Reach out to as many dealers as you can. Are you will to drive 200+ miles, if necessary to save $200 or more? Would you purchase from a dealer in another state?

3) Negotiate through email
Most dealers will want to talk to you on the phone...I usually avoid this. They will try to convince you over the phone and sell you on their dealership but your primary concern right now is price. At least for me, email helps keep it more impersonal till you are ready to choose a dealer.

4) Request best price with destination
Many people I talk to like to get the out the door price upfront. I tend not to do this because dealers just ask too many questions when you say this. If you are dealing with 12+ dealers at a time. I ask for best price +destination upfront. You want to get down to the top 4/5 dealers and then work on the OTD.

4) Have a few dealers you can work with and a price that is reasonable?
Check out those dealers through dealrater.com and bbb.org. I realize these sites are not perfect but you get a sense through complaints/reviews how a dealer is perceived.

Now work on OTD pricing....here you really should just have a few items added to the best price +destination. This will usually be title (~$35 - $50), taxes which vary but is fixed for the state you are purchasing from. Ohio is 7.5%...it just went up from 7% and another reason I wanted to buy before the end of year. The last thing is documentation. This tends to vary wildly but $150 - $250 is what I have usually seen in the Midwest. Everything else is add on and should be challenged within reason. No prep cost, no vin etching...etc. Now I would pick my battles, when I bought my last car they charged me $1.25 tire tax....who cares for that price let them have it. Get this price in an email or documented and not over the phone.

Also, would not hurt to get the odometer reading to make sure you are comfortable with the mileage already on the car.

5) Be prepared to walk away
If you show up and things are not what you anticipated, walk away from the deal you are not obligated to buy. There is always another deal to be had.

I apologize for being so long winded but I hope this helps and is probably common sense but I actually enjoy the negotiation as much as getting the new car.

Best times now would be end of January and maybe February to still buy and look to make a deal at the end of the month. The issue that usually occurs starting in March is that people get their tax refunds and guess what most people do with them? I know dealers know so they are less likely to deal knowing that their are more people with available cash to spend.

All this is really just my opinion and your mileage may vary.

I hope you find the car you are looking for at the price that you want to pay
 
CXPmaz, you offer tremendous insights. I intend to use your system for this and future car purchases. I contacted a dealer today by email (no phone number) regarding an iT MT with Tech located 80 miles away. This car is a rarity in my area so I may not be able to bargain hard. If that attempt fails, I'll pursue one of several iGT MTs though none are in colors I like. I hope to grab $750 loyalty cash before it expires.

Do you have any advice for how to approach options such as fog lights or auto-dimming mirrors? Is it usually best to buy the vehicle as-is then locate an after-market installer, or bargain with the dealer over the options install? My sense is after-market is generally preferable from a bargaining standpoint, excluding floor mats, but that's an instinct rather than an observation.

When would you consider custom building a car? Does custom-build prevent bargaining?

I dislike moonroofs but I do want the Tech package for the backup cam and Bose audio. It may be cheaper to get an iGT off the lot and ignore the moonroof and leatherette, versus trying to bargain over a rare iT with tech pkg.
 
You are starting off just as I did. I originally wanted a iT 6MT w/tech HB. I was only able to find one in the whole region and it was silver (not a color I like). It was only because of the rarity of the iT config I wanted that I decided to look at the iGT.

I think your instincts are correct around options. Now there are some options that are PIO (port installed) and cannot be done by the dealer. I do not know the break down of which option is which but I would think that anything that is PIO will be custom and you loose some of your bargaining power since the dealer cannot do the install but has to order what you want. When it comes to dealer installed options, here you should be able to bargain. Every option has an MSRP with an invoice so every option can be negotiated but do not get too complicated with it.

I tend to try and go with as basic model as possible and add the things I want myself. To be honest, if the infotainment system was integrated into the dash. I would have gotten an iSport 6MT HB and install my own aftermarket head unit. This is just me but when I saw the Mazda 3 and saw how it was mounted on the dash this was not an option....obviously.

I also did not want a moon roof, heated seats, or the leatherette seats...I was and I am still worried about maintenance of the seats, moon roof leaks and all this tech breaking. Like I said, I am a basic model type person and feel the less features the less will break but like my wife, I fell in love no matter what the risk...
Now I have these options...I really like them.

In general, I think with the Mazda 3 you should be able to get ~5% off of MSRP without much of an issue with a car off the lot. The higher the cost the higher the savings...

Saving money is a good thing and no one should pay MSRP it is just wrong. With that said, you will be living with this vehicle for 8+ years (if you are like me) so make the price matter but don't loose site of what you really want.

Again, good luck and let me know if there is anything else I can answer for you.
My thoughts are free and you are getting what you paid for (-;
 
CXPMAZ, you and I think alike. If I could buy a car with hand-crank windows I would, but I also see the benefits (when well done) of some newer technology. A backup cam wasn't needed on my 1979 diesel Rabbit, but it surely is required on all of today's hatchbacks.

Thanks again for your clear-sighted guidance. It may be a while before I take the plunge, but my eyes are open for the right car to come along. No rush here and willing to walk away!
 
If you can install the fog lights and mirror yourself then get it separately. Otherwise I would negotiate them with the car deal. They might eat the install labor if it came down to you walking or including the option. Know your prices before you go to the dealer. know what you are willing to pay and walk if they don't give the deal you want.
 
to be honest, take a look at mazdas homepage get the numbers to all mazda dealers that you can drive to within an hour or 2, call and tell them what specc you want and ask for a price, and ofcourse negotiate, ask what the extra stuff you want would cost, they always have room to put in extra stuff or lower the price a little bit.
Anyway when you have got the lowest price, call the dealer closest to you and see if he can match that price, if he can't then you drive and buy it at the cheapest place.
 
You could wait till mid year when the 3 starts coming out of Mexico. Margins may increase with the lower mfg costs and additional production capacity may drive further discounts.
 
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