So Boosting Our MSP's is not good..??

[TBMSPED]

:wtf: How are we supposed to have any fun. Can they not handle the boost. Even If you do the normal mods like, FMIC, Hard pipe kit, New BOV, Exhaust, Boost Controller ? And only run it at 10psi.

 

[jred321]

who says they can't handle it? if you do things correctly, they'll have no problems. if you're stupid about things, you'll break stuff.

 

[instylz]

a lot of people have it set at 10psi just make sure all the necessary mods are there. I for one have hard pipes,bov and boost controller and am at 10. I'm going to bring it down to about 9.5 or the closest to 10 i can get before hitting cut. Soon to be getting a turboback and fmic. l8r

 

[TBMSPED]

So...

After you get those mods do you think your going to up the boost? And if you did have the hard pipes, new BOV, FMIC, CAI, Turbo cat. What kind of HP do you think they can run?

 

[Captain KRM P5]

who says they can't handle it? if you do things correctly, they'll have no problems. if you're stupid about things, you'll break stuff.

110% in agreement. Adding to that, any time you decide to take a car outside the parameters set by the manufacturer, at least keep it in the back of your mind that there might be consequences, and that they're not going to be fault of Mazda's, but of the driver. Be prepared to pay or don't bother to play.

that said, i mean, people have been saying that there needs to be better fuel and timing control on these cars before you can run higher boost - and these solutions, either as a standalone or a piggyback, are being worked on. people just need to wise up, be patient and wait for one of these solutions to come down the pipeline rather than slap on an MBC and cross your fingers like a moron.

 

[shaolin]

I for one am a firm believer that before you do anything on your car modification-wise, you should make all the necessary preparations. Before I even consider buying a boost controller, I will be getting forged internals, engine and fuel management, and all the proper in car monitoring equipment.

It seems to me that everyone that has blown their motor wants a quick and easy bang. Everyone goes out and buys these boost controllers and blows up their engines and then wonders why. It's retarded. It's like going out and running around on a sprained ankle, and wondering why when you break your damn foot off.

Case in point: don't premature ejaculate and buy a boost controller without prepping the engine for it first.

 

[MazdaSP]

yea i wouldnt boost it any higher than 10, and turn down to 9 on cold days

 

[TampaBlackMSP]

This is weird, but it seems like no matter how much I turn the mbc to the left, it stays right around 10, as if it was hardcoded or something...the car runs great, but I'm not sure what the deal is...does it take a few miles before it adjusts and decreases??

This is after the flash by the way...

 

[yashooa]

110% in agreement. Adding to that, any time you decide to take a car outside the parameters set by the manufacturer, at least keep it in the back of your mind that there might be consequences, and that they're not going to be fault of Mazda's, but of the driver. Be prepared to pay or don't bother to play.

that said, i mean, people have been saying that there needs to be better fuel and timing control on these cars before you can run higher boost - and these solutions, either as a standalone or a piggyback, are being worked on. people just need to wise up, be patient and wait for one of these solutions to come down the pipeline rather than slap on an MBC and cross your fingers like a moron.

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[yashooa]

This is weird, but it seems like no matter how much I turn the mbc to the left, it stays right around 10, as if it was hardcoded or something...the car runs great, but I'm not sure what the deal is...does it take a few miles before it adjusts and decreases??

This is after the flash by the way...

Hush that s*** taLking up TampaxBlackMSP (k)

 

[Brian MP5T]

Try some forged internals at 8.2:1 and proper fuel management. Then play with the engine boost, you will end up finding the next weak link...Tranny,Driveshafs... $$$

Later...Brian

If you want Ferrari performance, you have to pay Ferrari prices.

 

[03MSPRO]

:wtf: How are we supposed to have any fun. Can they not handle the boost. Even If you do the normal mods like, FMIC, Hard pipe kit, New BOV, Exhaust, Boost Controller ? And only run it at 10psi.

YES , the MSP CAN handle STOCK boost levels.

You are asking about above stock boost levels? Haven't you been reading all the post about blown motors?

I still think our cars can handle 10-12 psi using the stock T25 safely after you have taken care of all the other things first like FMIC, CAI, exhaust, plugs.

I beleive the FMIC should be the 1st mods if you want to increase boost because hot air leads to detonation/knock and that's the cause for engine failure. Up until 10-12 psi I don't believe fuel management is that necessary.

Flyingprotege runs safely at 6 psi using a T3 which flows a lot more than the T25 turbo, but it has a huge FMIC. They said it could run 8 psi with fuel management. That's like 12-14 psi on the T25.

 

[BOOSTR]

You can run more boost than 6.9 psi and not hurt your MSP. You cannot eliminate the safety devices that are in place and go above the overboost paramaters that are built in to the car and expect it to last.

The boost increases the compression ratio. Check out this link to see what your ratio is depending on where you live.

www.rbracing.com/compression.htm

DON'T BE STUPID, AND IT WILL LAST!

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

your engine will blow! if you push 10psi for long(say 2 months)
just stay at stock boost levels and enjoy the ride.

 

[yashooa]

your engine will blow! if you push 10psi for long(say 2 months)
just stay at stock boost levels and enjoy the ride.

????? You have beeen the King of the 12 PSI Pide pipers what gives? Even post flash you bellowed the virtues of 12PSI.

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

no way bud im doing 15psi now(just being a dick lol)

 

[TampaBlackMSP]

Hush that s*** taLking up TampaxBlackMSP (k)

What?! Me? Nosiree!

 

[AutoBox]

i think our motors are rather strong and could handle good boost...like stated many times....just need to do it right

 

[yashooa]

What?! Me? Nosiree!

That's the spirit! (2thumbs) (rockon) (2thumbs)

 

[yashooa]

no way bud im doing 15psi now(just being a dick lol)

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