*Sigh* I thought these bastards didn't try this anymore...

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MazdaNeal

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Well, I am trying to sell my car on autotrader. Havent gotten one email in the whole two and a half months and this is the first thing I get the other day:

HELLO,
I AM INTRESTED IN YOUR CAR I SAW IN AUTO TRADER ADVERT PLEASE IS IT
STILL AVAILABLE FOR SALE?GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR LAST ASKING PRICE SEND PIC IF THERE IS ANY FOR ONWARD TRANSACTION
THANKS
Zack

Ok, crappy english. I figure it is a kid around 16-17 who isnt getting a good education at an american school, so I let it slide and email him back with a few more pictures and price info... Then I get this this morning:

Hello,
Thanks for your response and your price for $14,700 is well accepted.However,you have to give me sometime to contact my client on phone,i have been trying his line for sometime now i believe is switched off,

The amount in the check he deposited for the order is bigger than what should be paid to you, though it's meant for the total expenses which
includes the purchase ,the pick up and the shipping bills. so i want to know if i shall carry on with that, he is presently in saudi arabia on a visit.i will get back to you as soon as i conclude issues with him.

Please get back to me as soon as you recieve this.
Thanks and God bless,
Zack

Why must they always say "Thanks and God bless" after every email? Its like a dead giveway! Plus, if the client is sooooooo interested, why can't he do it after he gets home! Or maybe before he leaves, Its been on there for two and a half months!
This really pisses me off that he is wasting my time and energy. Hell, if he sends me a check and after a month waiting for it to bounce it doesn't, the he can have it. I will need a $50 cash title release fee that my bank just might charge so I can make some bucks for my time. Bastards...
 
Would you like my bank information and social security number to go along with that??? Idiots. I hope you sell your car to a LEGIT buyer man. Good luck.... and God bless. lol jk
 
I got that too! We had a old Caddy that I was selling, and some guy offered me twice the value, except that I have to cash his M.O for him. I told him to eat s*** and hung up....
 
New email, Wow his client's phone was turned back on quick!

Hello,
I got your mail and the contents well uderstood, as i informed you in my last mail,that we have a cashier check which is made out for the order,but the amount on it is bigger than what you are supposed to be paid.However,my client has instructed me to carry on with his check, that means that payment will get to you in cashier check of $22,200 which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.So you are required to deduct cost of your car $14,700 when payment gets to you and refund balance $7,500 to my customer via money gram for him to be able to offset shipping charges .

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him,our agent will come for the pick up and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,while title papers and other necessary documets will be handed over to my agent at the time of pick up.

Please Confirm this and provide name,address and phone
number for check payment to be delivered to you via courier service .

Thanks and God bless,
Zack

Hmm, ok. Definately a scam, lets try something...

My email back to him...

Zack, I just spoke with my bank this morning about selling my car, and they stated that I will need a $100 title-release transaction fee since I will be picking up the title in person. I would request that along with your cashiers check, that you send a hundred dollars cash along with it. This would make it easier on me, and make the transaction go more smoothly.
I understand about the refund, as I have to pay for large items with cashiers checks, and sometimes I make them for the wrong amount. Would it be ok to just wire you the money? Or western union, either is fine. Let me know that you are ok with this, that way we can get this transaction going.

Neal


That's right, 100 bucks cash. I doubt he will fall for it, but I did give him my understanding about the cashiers check. Should I get it delivered to my work address? I would rather not give him my personal address, and I am definately giving him a b.s. phone number.
 
Why not just say you agree with it, get him to send the check, tell him you didn't get it, and cash it a few months later.


Scammers suck. At least write the fake letter well.
 
Put a tracking device on the car and do the transaction like they want you to, and alert the cops ahead of time or get a PI and pwn them somehow through the US legal system, not sure exactly how all that would work though.
 
peepsalot said:
Put a tracking device on the car and do the transaction like they want you to, and alert the cops ahead of time or get a PI and pwn them somehow through the US legal system, not sure exactly how all that would work though.
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I'm pretty sure they dont pick up the car. What they do is send you a fake cashiers check. By the time you deposit it in your bank account and send them the extra money, they have made off with a few thousand bucks. They could care less about the car. Yes I doubt they will email again. If they send everything i'm going to send him pictures of me pissing on the cashiers check and spending the money. (the $100)
 
MazdaNeal said:
New email, Wow his client's phone was turned back on quick!

Hello,
I got your mail and the contents well uderstood, as i informed you in my last mail,that we have a cashier check which is made out for the order,but the amount on it is bigger than what you are supposed to be paid.However,my client has instructed me to carry on with his check, that means that payment will get to you in cashier check of $22,200 which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.So you are required to deduct cost of your car $14,700 when payment gets to you and refund balance $7,500 to my customer via money gram for him to be able to offset shipping charges .

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him,our agent will come for the pick up and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,while title papers and other necessary documets will be handed over to my agent at the time of pick up.

Please Confirm this and provide name,address and phone
number for check payment to be delivered to you via courier service .

Thanks and God bless,
Zack

Hmm, ok. Definately a scam, lets try something...

My email back to him...

Zack, I just spoke with my bank this morning about selling my car, and they stated that I will need a $100 title-release transaction fee since I will be picking up the title in person. I would request that along with your cashiers check, that you send a hundred dollars cash along with it. This would make it easier on me, and make the transaction go more smoothly.
I understand about the refund, as I have to pay for large items with cashiers checks, and sometimes I make them for the wrong amount. Would it be ok to just wire you the money? Or western union, either is fine. Let me know that you are ok with this, that way we can get this transaction going.

Neal


That's right, 100 bucks cash. I doubt he will fall for it, but I did give him my understanding about the cashiers check. Should I get it delivered to my work address? I would rather not give him my personal address, and I am definately giving him a b.s. phone number.
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You forgot to say "Thanks and God bless"

LZ
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MazdaNeal said:
I'm pretty sure they dont pick up the car. What they do is send you a fake cashiers check. By the time you deposit it in your bank account and send them the extra money, they have made off with a few thousand bucks. They could care less about the car. Yes I doubt they will email again. If they send everything i'm going to send him pictures of me pissing on the cashiers check and spending the money. (the $100)
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OK nevermind, I misunderstood the scam here. Didn't really read it through. (hand)
 
Thats alright. IF YOU get it (doubtful), take it to the police department or FBI to look at. The FBI investigates fraud's from other countries and usually has information already on a similar case. I had one where the guy sent money for tickets to a Duke vs Carolina game and sent the money Western Union. The guy picked up the money gram from Canada and hasnt been seen or heard from again (no tickets ever existed). I get alot of Ebay scams as well as people that get e-mails saying, "please reverify your financial information with us for our records." Or something like this...

"Hi, I'm from Mogadishu (or some other country) and I've got $10,000 to give to relatives of victims of the recent secretarian war. I am the General over our finance department for the Libertarian party and have been given your name as a survivor of a recently deceased relative. Please accept our appologies and this monetary compensation from our government. The only thing we ask is that the funds be directly deposited to your account to avoid fees, taxes and royalties that your country may require us to provide, therefore, taking more money away from you and your family. We require that you respond as soon as possible as our funds are limited and this compensation will be forwarded to the next of kin within 2 days of this letter. Thank you.

General Blutanku, Republic of Mogadishu"

Yeah..... okkkkkkk
 
/\/\ I get those all the time...sad thing is that there is someone out there right now sending people their banking info because they think this is real... sad
 
Well, the elderly fall for it most of the time. And for the life of me, I have no clue why. Most tell me that they THOUGHT it looked suspicious, but that it also looked legitimate enough.


Meanwhile, they're out $1,500 or worse... their life savings. I swear I'd like to hang those criminals that do that by their toenails or ask for the government to consider chopping hands off or something.
 
My wife and I had 10 grand taken out of our account and moved into someone elses account at the same credit union. We don't even know the guy.

After an investigation we found out that he was stupid enough to fall for one of these scams. He was supposed to keep part of the 10 grand and send the rest to some other account. Apparently our account was hacked. It happened to someone else at the credit union too......time to change banks.

The credit union payed the money back to us since they're bonded. The guy that has the 10 grand won't give it back. Oh well, it's the banks prob now.
 
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