S-Pipe Pictures

vodapas77: Just so I get it right when I call tomorrow, you want from the s-pipe(downpipe) to the factory mount for a catback PLUS extra piping to make your own custom catback?
 
goku4658 said:
vodapas77: Just so I get it right when I call tomorrow, you want from the s-pipe(downpipe) to the factory mount for a catback PLUS extra piping to make your own custom catback?
Nope, my bad if I phrased that wrong. I just want there S-pipe that they sell to extend all the way to where the factory cat-back starts. I think the best way to do that would actualy be to make it in two pieces since it would be easier to ship. But, whatever works.

That way I don't have to worry about having the exhaust shop mount my S-pipe. I can install the GHL piece in in front of the factory catback and then have the exhaust shop do the cat-back.

Anyhow, I think that would sell well with those of us who have cat-backs we are happy with or are planning to get our own crafted.
 
vodapas77 said:
That way I don't have to worry about having the exhaust shop mount my S-pipe. I can install the GHL piece in in front of the factory catback and then have the exhaust shop do the cat-back.
Ok i think I got it. You wouldn't need it to bolt up to the factory catback would you. Like you don't need it to mate up to the stock catback, right? If i understand you correctly, you just need enough of the system to bolt on custom 3" catback.


vodapas77 said:
Anyhow, I think that would sell well with those of us who have cat-backs we are happy with or are planning to get our own crafted.
I signed up for the full turbo-back, but I'm sure they would sell a ton of these if they made this for other people w/ similar plans.

-Jon
 
If you do customize your own catback, but an HKS C-TI muffler from ********** and have the exhaust shop do SS on the rest. That would be a sweet turboback:)
 
I think he's talking about a piece that will include the S pipe and J pipe similar to the one offered by Apex and Circuit sports, so we can just bolt it up to our existing catback or buy a different aftermarket one. I'd sell mine and buy this one if I can get it in 3" with a cat.
 
Yeah,

Like Bhamsan said if they produced the S-pipe that went all the way back to the factory cat back location with a choice of with or w/ out a cat they would get mad business. I mean look at it like this would you rather spend $330 for a 3" Apex mid pipe that only replaces up to the J-pipe (which still leaves a huge bottle neck) or say a little under $500 for a piece that replaces the S-pipe, J-pipe and cat pipe? The first company to offer this is gonna make a killing. GHL is so close already that all they'll have to do is some slight alterations of the jig from their turbo back and they can be the first ones to bring this to market.

The beauty of this design would be that with the proper type of flange it could be put in front of any cat back that is a direct replacement for the MSPs stock system. That offers even more potential customers.

Oh and Jurgs, funny you mention it. I've got an HKS CF-Ti sitting in my shed that I picked up when I was in Cali. I'm just waiting on getting things taken care of with my rear bumper before I take the Speed in to get a custom under the axle cat back fabricated for it. Now, it looks like I'm gonna wait a little longer to see if GHL can make me the first half of a full stainless 3" turbo back. :D
 
vodapas77 said:
Oh and Jurgs, funny you mention it. I've got an HKS CF-Ti sitting in my shed that I picked up when I was in Cali. I'm just waiting on getting things taken care of with my rear bumper before I take the Speed in to get a custom under the axle cat back fabricated for it. Now, it looks like I'm gonna wait a little longer to see if GHL can make me the first half of a full stainless 3" turbo back. :D
Gotta post pics and sound clips when you get that bad boy done.
 
vodapas77 said:
Yeah,

I mean look at it like this would you rather spend $330 for a 3" Apex mid pipe that only replaces up to the J-pipe (which still leaves a huge bottle neck) or say a little under $500 for a piece that replaces the S-pipe, J-pipe and cat pipe?
Since I don't work for GHL, I have no say whatsoever on pricing. But I think if they ever did offer this, it would be more than the price you've estimated (a little under $500). I mean Apex's mid-pipe is already $330 for the 3" and it doesn't come w/ a hi-flow cat, which usually adds a $100 dollars to the price of any midpipe (MAM,wagner). So right there, you're already talking in the $400-$430 range and thats not including replacing the S-pipe(downpipe) yet.

But like I said, since I dont' work for them, I have no idea what they would price this at, or even if they will make it. I'm sure they'll offer it at a reasonable price, especially considering that the only other person offering a 3" S-pipe(downpipe) to cat system that you can bolt a catback onto is ION. And when I expressed interest in one, I was quoted for a price around $900. I would think that GHL would definitely offer it 1)cheaper, 2)ship it to you faster, and 3)they don't charge you anything till they ship it.
 
Thats a good idea. Just so I am 100% clear, you want the Downpipe all the way to flange after the car, but before the resonator. Use this diagram to figure out the specifics.

Exhaust_Systems.jpg
 
GHL- yea right between the 2nd cat and the resonator, that flange, would be awesome. don't make the flanges match though, cause to mate a larger pipe to the stock flange, you have to reduce the diameter; which kills performance. I think you touched on that issue already.

I'd be willing to pay more for the longer piece just to cut down on fabrication time since I'm going the custom route.
 
Yup, exactly where mx3ownzjoo said. The flange between the cats and the resonator section.

I'm hoping if you do make this for us you'll make a version with no cat. Kind of like an off-road pipe.

Thanks,

Lang
 
vodapas77 said:
Yup, exactly where mx3ownzjoo said. The flange between the cats and the resonator section.

I'm hoping if you do make this for us you'll make a version with no cat. Kind of like an off-road pipe.

Thanks,

Lang

I can do this. Deleting the cat is also no problem(for off road use only). Fortuneately, for times sake, the S pipe was designed to connect to a second pipe so it should not have to be changed.
Its possible a one off flange may need to be built to keep the 3" ID but once one is made its off to the water jetter and then we can pump them out.
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Phill
 
I don't think the pricing will be too bad, maybe in the $500 range. For one, the whole turboback is already out for under $1k, and that is including the resonator and high flow cat already. I doubt that a true DP will cost more than $500, which is what this piece is going to be.

GHL, I'm really hoping you can come up with something like this. The design of your s-pipe replacement for the turboback looks really good, and I'd like to get that, but keep my existing catback because I just don't want to have to sell and ship it out, plus I like the looks/sound already. If I can get a complete piece to bolt up to my catback, I'd order it in a second, especially if it was in 3" and had a high flow cat. High flow cat option in 3" is a must!
 
GHL Motorsports said:
I can do this. Deleting the cat is also no problem(for off road use only). Fortuneately, for times sake, the S pipe was designed to connect to a second pipe so it should not have to be changed.
Its possible a one off flange may need to be built to keep the 3" ID but once one is made its off to the water jetter and then we can pump them out.
.

Phill
Great glad to hear it. I figured given the great design you already have that it wouldn't be too hard to fab up what a lot of us are looking for.

Count me in for a catless version. Hell, you might want to consider doing some kind of GB for a limited run of these when you get them into production. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find at least 10 buyers for a piece like this.

Thank you for being the first to bring this to production. It's been a long time coming.

BTW - I am assuming if you do make this it will already have a bung on it for the 2nd O2 sensor right?

Thanks again,

Lang
 
I'm definitely in on this, if the downpipe from turbo, connects to a section that can contain either a cat or not, then connects directly to the stock position of a cat back system.
 
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