I own an 87 T2 a 88T2 and am a previous owner of a 80 GSL and a 86 se. Normally im not on the computer all that much and i dont post often on any forums, I never said i was a know it all i was merely stating a fact earlier with initial quotes on the motor ITSELF. And please do not not insult my intelligence, i havent insulted yours. Some of use can get great prices on parts and if you know anyone that needs a 3rd gen motor i can get low mileage j-specs for under 1,000+ shipping. Not including the harness and ECU. And yes sinfest was banned. Good riddens to bad rubbish there. I would have to verify the exact price on the 3rd gen motor. And to help with matters one of my best friends is stationed at kadena thats how i can get my parts extremely cheap. He is allowed to send around 1,000 lbs a month home aboard military aircraft.