Does anyone have a link to just kinda basic info for rx-7's. Like the differences between the generations, the motors in each, etc. It seems FC3s is the most talked about rx-7, why is that? I am thinking I might want to get one and build it up a bit sometime in the future, but I don't know what model would be good to start with and where I would go with modifications.
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Go to www.fd3s.net it has all the info your could want... also try robrobinette.com or just poke around rx7club.com or nopistons.com
If it seems like the FC is talked about the most, that's probably because they sold more of them than the others. Understandably, the FB was the simplist, with I think, the GSL-SE being the most sought after. In FCs, from what I understand, the GTU, VERTS and T2s, then FDs with R1/R2s IMO, somewhat more desirable than the touring or base models.
For 2nd Gen:
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/buy1.htm
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/buy2.htm
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/h2b.html
For 3rd Gen (my personal favorite) :
http://www.epinions.com/content_92709097092
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide3g/bguide3g.html
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/buying.html
Good luck with whatever you choose. (thumb)
For 2nd Gen:
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/buy1.htm
http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/buy2.htm
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/h2b.html
For 3rd Gen (my personal favorite) :
http://www.epinions.com/content_92709097092
http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide3g/bguide3g.html
http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/buying.html
Good luck with whatever you choose. (thumb)
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Basically the 3rd gen has the most potential as far as handling and power. In my opinion it looks best also. As I have one. They are also very expensive. It has the 13b-rew engine (twin turbo 2 rotor). The 2nd gen is either a naturally aspirated 2 rotor, or a turbo-ed two rotor. Neither make nearly as much as the 3rd gen. The first gen is a NA 12a engine... still 2 rotor. Not a ton of big power potential for the first gen without an engine swap to a 13b. They make insane sleepers though.
SilverRx7 said:
IIRC, some FB models came with a FI 13b (GSL and GSL-SE). Add some bolt-ons, and they were a bit of a sleeper...at least for that time. I don't recall exactly but I think the FB only weighed around 2200 lbs. And there still seems to be quite a lot of aftermarket stuff out there. Also, if your looking for something unique, it seems like there are fewer FBs now then FDs.
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don't forget that there are also SA chassis rx7s (79-83) i believe they were not called FB until 84, correct me if i am wrong
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peepsalot said:
1978 - 1984 RX-7 (SA22, FB) had carbureted 12A 1.1 liter twin rotor engines
for 1985 the fuel injected 13B was an optional engine for the GSL-SE along with a locking rear differential, better brakes and suspension components. Turbo 12As were available overseas but are not considered strong engines. The 12A in the US made 100hp and the 13B in the 1985 model made 140hp.
1986 - 1991 RX-7 (FC3S) had fuel injected 13B 1.3 liter twin rotor engines. The "turbo II" model had lower compression and a turbo setup with a top mount intercooler. There are S4 and S5 versions of the turbocharged car, the S5 versions generally considered the better of the two. (1989 - 1991 IIRC) N/a models made about 140hp and turbo models made about 175hp on the US ecu.
Technically speaking, there was no 1992 RX-7, just rebadged dealer holdovers.
1993 - 1995 RX-7 (FD3S) only had a twin turbo 13B 1.3 liter twin rotor engine. They made about 255hp. They've gotten an unfair rep as being unreliable IMO thanks to lack of know how and proper maintenance. These cars were continually produced in Japan until 2002.
The RX-8s renesis is a reworked 13B. The engine sticker and window sticker even lists the engine code as a 13B. Chassis code for the RX-8 is SE3P
Captain KRM P5 said:
Not quite. There are 1992 Rx7s. They were sold in dealerships in december of '92, and are technically 1992s, but are considered 1993 model years. There are a small amount of people in the US with 1992 Rx7s, being that they were made and sold in 1992, but they are just considered 1993s. Doesnt really matter though.
Some of this stuff in this thread is correct. Some not so correct.
Series 1 - SA22 1979-1980 Model years. 105HP 12A
Series 2 - FB 1981-1983 Model years. 105HP 12A
Series 3 - FB 1984-1985 Model years. 105HP 12A or 135HP 13B
Series 4 - FC 1986-1988 Model years. 145HP 13B or 175HP 13BT
Series 5 - FC 1989-1992 Model years. 160HP 13B or 200HP 13BT
Series 6 - FD 1993-1995 Model years. 240HP 13BREW
This is for US models only and the horsepower may be +/- 5HP.
True model year 1992 models were convertible FC's. No FC coupes were sold as MY92 and all FD coupes were sold as MY93, regardless of 1992 build dates.
Hope that helps clear that up.
Series 1 - SA22 1979-1980 Model years. 105HP 12A
Series 2 - FB 1981-1983 Model years. 105HP 12A
Series 3 - FB 1984-1985 Model years. 105HP 12A or 135HP 13B
Series 4 - FC 1986-1988 Model years. 145HP 13B or 175HP 13BT
Series 5 - FC 1989-1992 Model years. 160HP 13B or 200HP 13BT
Series 6 - FD 1993-1995 Model years. 240HP 13BREW
This is for US models only and the horsepower may be +/- 5HP.
True model year 1992 models were convertible FC's. No FC coupes were sold as MY92 and all FD coupes were sold as MY93, regardless of 1992 build dates.
Hope that helps clear that up.
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JDuncan said:
thanks duncan - off topic, have any good FC parts
?Fast Facts:
1978 was the first year of the RX-7. They were sold as 1979's mostly. 79 had the points ignition, 80 had the Electronic 'Hybrid' ignition.
1984-85 was the 2 years of the Highly sought after 'Series 3' GSL-SE's. Factory 13B powered. They never sold a 13B powered First Generation RX-7 in Japan. They had a trim called GT Turbo, it had a Fuel injected 12A Turbo, similar in design to the GSL-SE's 13B Injection. SE's had 135HP. GT Turbo's had 160HP. Who got shafted?
1985 was the first year of the FC in Japan. Japan never had an N/A RX-7 after 1984. North America never had a Turbo Convertable. There were no FC's made for the 92' Model year. Remaining 91's were sold off as 92's in north america.
1991 was the first year of the FD in Japan. Build dates were December 1991. They officially came out in 1992 in japan, arriving here in 1993 model year.
Production ceased in 2002.
Japan:
S1 - 1978-1980 SA22C 12A
S2 - 1981-1983 FB 12A
S3 - 1984 FB 12A Turbo
S4 - 1985-1988 FC3S 13B Turbo
S5 - 1989-1991 FC3S 13B Turbo
S6 - 1991-1995 FD3S 13B Twin Turbo - 255HP
S7 - 1996-1998 FD3S 13B Twin Turbo - 276HP
S8 - 1999-2002 FD3S 13B Twin Turbo - 280HP
1978 was the first year of the RX-7. They were sold as 1979's mostly. 79 had the points ignition, 80 had the Electronic 'Hybrid' ignition.
1984-85 was the 2 years of the Highly sought after 'Series 3' GSL-SE's. Factory 13B powered. They never sold a 13B powered First Generation RX-7 in Japan. They had a trim called GT Turbo, it had a Fuel injected 12A Turbo, similar in design to the GSL-SE's 13B Injection. SE's had 135HP. GT Turbo's had 160HP. Who got shafted?
1985 was the first year of the FC in Japan. Japan never had an N/A RX-7 after 1984. North America never had a Turbo Convertable. There were no FC's made for the 92' Model year. Remaining 91's were sold off as 92's in north america.
1991 was the first year of the FD in Japan. Build dates were December 1991. They officially came out in 1992 in japan, arriving here in 1993 model year.
Production ceased in 2002.
Japan:
S1 - 1978-1980 SA22C 12A
S2 - 1981-1983 FB 12A
S3 - 1984 FB 12A Turbo
S4 - 1985-1988 FC3S 13B Turbo
S5 - 1989-1991 FC3S 13B Turbo
S6 - 1991-1995 FD3S 13B Twin Turbo - 255HP
S7 - 1996-1998 FD3S 13B Twin Turbo - 276HP
S8 - 1999-2002 FD3S 13B Twin Turbo - 280HP
