RPM MSP header dyno results

[magnumP5]

Have any 'final' production models in the works yet? Still offering the larger runner option? I would definitely like to see the final production model with the better welds like you say will be there.

 

[AtenzaNY62]

niiiiiiiice =)

 

[ForceFed]

*gets the Popcorn*

 

[wmbeaver]

obviously mazdaspeedpower is going to be a little biased though also, seeing as it's his car that the RPM mani was tested on, at least thats what i gather from the thread on the other forum. personally i think regarding looks that steed's is definitely up there with mam. if i'm paying hundreds of dollars for a performance part, it would be nice if it looked kick ass at the same time. but the gains from the RPM mani seem to be pretty good for everything else being stock.

 

[ForceFed]

Their results are about the same as steeds.....and as Mam's on Stock boost.
They are all about the same in THe stock boost Gains.

Turning up the boost is where we will seperate the men from the boys.

 

[Jasonboy]

Could you please post of the dyno papers. congrats on the numbers

 

[RPM Motorsports]

I found this quote by RPM on the TOProtege forums. I haven't really had a lot to say about this manifold and respect any craftsman who is working hard to make a new product but this kinda ticked me off!

For your information RPM, my manifold performs much better than stock and is not just a better looking version of the stock manifold. I am also quite sure from our dyno result it will perform at least as well as your pile of spaghetti and it will not crack the way yours will with all those thin slices of tube grafted into the design. If you take a look at the close up pics of my manifold you will also see what a weld is supposed to look like when done by a true artist like Chris my welder. I can clearly see that your welds are done too cold for a start (crack). Anyone buying one of these should delete the ceramic option because it is difficult to fix the welds when you have to grind off the coating first. If you really wanted to make a nice tubular you would have done better to copy the MAM version which to my mind is a very nice design and is arranged so that expansion will happen in such a way that it won't be trying to pull itself apart like your version

RPM I suggest you show a little more courtesy toward someone who has never said a bad word against you despite you being on here selling product without AV status.

This is luke speaking not Joe on this reply for the record.

I am the certified welder at rpm, i myself didn't weld this header joe did. He wanted to weld it himself. u should really take a look at the pictures of the header again before u start talking. i have been welding for many years. From what i see in the pictures and what i seen after joe welded the header. Was he welded it a little to hot not cold so i don't know what u see in those pictures.

Take a look at those welds again. now look at the heat effect zone notice how it looks red and orange then after its blue. The perfect weld would of only had blue.

Take a look at this weld i did on the same piping used in the header

These two welds are the same once.

Now that was welded with the tig welder set at 65amps and i welded it at 60 amps (thats how a very good weld looks like). When Joe welded the header he had the tig welder set at 100amps max and i know he was welding it around 90-95amps. thats hot. Like i said those welds are hot not cold.

steedspeed i don't know who told u those welds look cold but trust me they don't know what there talking about and they must not be a certified welder and gone though years of schooling like me.

This first manifold that Joe welded wont crack. And on a side note this is the only manifold Joe has welded. I am the one welding all the rest of them.

Luke

 

[ForceFed]

No fighting Children....
It's not professional.

 

[livelyjay]

(wow)(wow)(wow)(wow)(omg)(bow)

 

[steedspeed]

I was refering to the welds on the flanges which look like ass.

Like I said before, I had no intention of commenting on your product until I found a couple of posts where you guys decided to put down my product. If I had liked your product I would have said so before now but I don't find it to be very good which is why I didn't comment. If you had made something attractive and well thought out like the MAM I would have given you credit already. Perhaps I should start posting on TOProtege in a similar fashion to your posts? Is that what you want?

 

[Outlawstar98]

 

[MREDDLE]

TRE???? Maybe?

Hay RPM do you make manifolds for TRE? Because the manifold you are claming to of designed? and welded seems identical? Just wondering.

 

[mazdaspeedwerx]

whos TRE?

 

[MREDDLE]

TRE is a east coast company that has been making intake manifolds for years. mostly for race cars chevy and ford. Here a good link of one ex. on ebay. I'll try to find a better one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shee...209714487QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260209714487

 

[Outlawstar98]

TRE is a east coast company that has been making intake manifolds for years. mostly for race cars chevy and ford. Here a good link of one ex. on ebay. I'll try to find a better one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shee...209714487QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item260209714487

yeah find a better one haha those welds arnt that great, i saw some of their stuff b4 and the welds looked better than that, and hope you know alot of people make them like that, if you ever go to a big drag event i see atleast a cupple

 

[MREDDLE]

Hay I mean not disrespect I'm just board at work and wanted to stir the pot alittle. I like RPM's craftsmanship. ;-)

 

[RPM Motorsports]

Nope we dont make manifolds for TRE, never heard of them before actually. They do look similar.

My scanner blows so I'll take pics of the dyno sheets I have and post them soon.

 

[mazdaspeedwerx]

so are you going to prduce some manifolds or is this just a one shot deal? also do you have some pics of the mani complete? are you able to put a t-3 flange on there? whats the cost?

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

obviously mazdaspeedpower is going to be a little biased though also, seeing as it's his car that the RPM mani was tested on, at least thats what i gather from the thread on the other forum. personally i think regarding looks that steed's is definitely up there with mam. if i'm paying hundreds of dollars for a performance part, it would be nice if it looked kick ass at the same time. but the gains from the RPM mani seem to be pretty good for everything else being stock.

yeah I am biased.

The gains are enough that driving my car with only the manifold installed. everything else stock including turbo back I can feel a significant difference. The car has smoothed out through the power boosting sooner. Engine noise remains stock with a bit more grunt to it and the turbo can be heard more. Definatly impressed.

so are you going to prduce some manifolds or is this just a one shot deal? also do you have some pics of the mani complete? are you able to put a t-3 flange on there? whats the cost?

Joe and Dan said they'll be getting enough material for the first batch of about 15. My first off mani will be replaced with one from the first batch. Like outlaw said email Dan to inquire. Also they said they'll be able to do alternate turbo size flanges if someone is able to mock up first. they are working on it I believe someone from the toprotege board had already mentioned the t3 so it's probably gonna be possible in the near future.

Don't take my word as final though it's just what I've heard in discussion. They are aware it needs different flanges though.

 

[Speed3.5]

Hey , can't we all get alone ??

Competition does really bring troublesome arguments. We all grown ups here lets not spoil the products just because of some "small words here and there", you guys wanna make great product we "buyers" wanna get the best for the hard cash we through out.

Now , the numbers are very impressing, at what boost "be very specific" were you at stock condition w/o RPM's header and after you put the header did boost change at any rate ??

How's the power band toward the end does it keep steady or it goes down ??

And "where's teh damn dyno sheeetttt"