Rotated the upper strut bearings and WOW

[CustomMSP]

Turned out to be a very informative thread! I think the change would be a little different for every car. We should ask Micaspeed for some numbers.

 

[BoOsTiN]

Can this be used to create possitive camber by rotating the opposite direction? Say if I were to install lowering springs and rotate these in the other direction, would this help even out the camber?

 

[Kooldino]

Turned out to be a very informative thread! I think the change would be a little different for every car. We should ask Micaspeed for some numbers.

I sent him an email to post here, but no love.

 

[CustomMSP]

Can this be used to create possitive camber by rotating the opposite direction? Say if I were to install lowering springs and rotate these in the other direction, would this help even out the camber?

Good question...It's probably possible, not by much though. I think this mod makes it harder on the steering pump

 

[Kooldino]

Good question...It's probably possible, not by much though. I think this mod makes it harder on the steering pump

Why do you say that?

 

[CustomMSP]

Why do you say that?

Because of the way the tie rods are positioned. I did a full sweep from lock to lock after I rotated the bearings and there seemed to be more resistance towards the end of rotation in each direction. The steering wheel doesn't stay in the locked possition, it just wants to straighten back out a little like it does when the car is moving. I don't think it was like that when the bearings were in stock position.

 

[sm76]

Can this be used to create possitive camber by rotating the opposite direction? Say if I were to install lowering springs and rotate these in the other direction, would this help even out the camber?

It depends on what position it is in now. If you have the hole on the inside then yes, rotating it will make your camber 1 degree more positive. If the hole is towards the outside, then rotating it will move you 1 degree more negative. (There are 4 positions -Camber-Caster, -Camber+Caster, +Camber-Caster, and +Camber+Caster)

 

[CustomMSP]

It'll be nice to get the car on the alignment rack and check out each setting.

 

[mazdaowner123]

Mmmm...camber. I just installed my JIC's and am running -2.4 degrees up front, and boy does it make a difference. I'm sure this mod helps, too. I would have done it if I hadn't gotten the JIC's. Anyone gotten any numbers yet as to how much this adds, for sure? I'm interested to find out.

 

[CustomMSP]

I'll probably be getting an alignment soon so we'll see.

 

[FlyinMSP]

How much is the Caster affected by this "mod"? Which way does it go, more pos, or neg?

 

[CustomMSP]

Not sure how much, but it's more pos.

 

[2slow4u]

Curious i have a tein suspension my bearing is under my mount and just above my coilovers how do i proceed to doing this modifcation to assist my driving. Please help me out. also if you have pictures that would be great.

 

[Mallard]

Curious i have a tein suspension my bearing is under my mount and just above my coilovers how do i proceed to doing this modifcation to assist my driving. Please help me out. also if you have pictures that would be great.

Didn't the Tein coilovers come with their own mounts with camber plates?

If you have the stock upper strut bearings then you follow the same procedure. I don't know what the Tein plates look like so I can't tell you other wise, except of they're assymetrical then bolt it in the position that puts the coilover closest to the inside of the body.

 

[2slow4u]

Only the flex series came with their own up mount so you'd have to use the stock mount if you get the one for our car which are Super streets or Basics. Now the little green dont should it be towards front of the car or the back of the car after rotation?

 

[CustomMSP]

check this pic out http://www.delsingmotorsport.com/images/stockbearingLG.jpg

This is the pass. side. That's where the dot should be.

 

[CustomMSP]

Got an alignment last weekend and here are the results:

Caster: 2.6 both sides...which is what it should be stock I think
Camber: -1deg on both sides
Toe: .08 right .04 left

So basically not much difference from stock I think. Does any1 have the stock numbers handy?

I set toe to 0 all around.

Rear camber is something like -1 as well on both sides.

 

[TheJohnny]

going to get alignment this weekend with the new rotates strut assembley... thanks CustomMSP for the advice on the strut........

 

[CustomMSP]

No problem.

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

TOE-IN ADJUSTMENT INFORMATION

1. Adjust tire inflation pressures to 32 PSI cold for both front and rear tires.
   
2. On the alignment rack, reduce total toe-in to the following specification.
   • Front total toe-in (-1.0 1.0 mm, -0.04 0.04 in, -06' 6')
     
   • Rear total toe-in (-1.0 1.0 mm, -0.04 0.04 in, -06' 6')
3. Inspect that the following settings are still within specification.
   • Caster angle (Front: 201' 1)
     
   • Kingpin angle (Front: 1259')
     
   • Camber angle (Front: -058' 1)
     
   • Camber angle (Rear: -048' 1)