Road and Track test of the MZ6 0-60

[Mallard]

I'm sorry maybe I can't see how air flowing thru the radator is gonna cool that thing...

The top half of the grill opening is ducted straight to the intercooler. It's not going through a radiator first.

All the "tests" published in the magazines this month were not instrumented. Mazda let them drive the car for a few laps to get a feel for it, but no actual measurements were taken. All the performance numbers are from Mazda's press release, not independant tests.

 

[obender66]

obender you should read ALL posts in a thread before commenting. You obviously missed my correction a little later.

Wasn't sure which part of your post you're were referring to. It's all good now

 

[Newf]

some of you guys are ******* hilarious.

1. Don't say s*** until the final car comes out.....until then, shut up
2. If you don't know wtf your talking about, which is made clear by some of the previous posts...shut up.

To the thread starter, thanks for the info, I must get a copy of this when I can.

 

[Mazda3]

some of you guys are ******* hilarious.

1. Don't say s*** until the final car comes out.....until then, shut up
2. If you don't know wtf your talking about, which is made clear by some of the previous posts...shut up.

To the thread starter, thanks for the info, I must get a copy of this when I can.

I have to agree with Newf.

The thread starter stated that R & T tested the MS6 at 5.5sec 0-60. Everyone in this thread is disagreeing. So you people are either stating that he is a liar and R & T didn't test the car or that R & T don't know how to test a car?

HILARIOUS

 

[Super Matty P]

All I'm stating is that I read the stated article AND a SCC mag article and the SCC mag said that MAZDA THEMSELVES rate the car at 6.5s.

I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong but if that MS6 only runs 0-60mph in 6.5s I'd be VERY pissed off.

 

[NJP5Guy]

i agree that comments about its performance shouldnt be made until its in the hands of the testers(ie r&d, C&D). but with that amount of power it should be running at least a mid 14sec 1/4. if it doesnt then i'd be surprised and very disappointed.

 

[Da 6]

Doesn't the STi also have a top-mount intercooler?

Yes but it's also equipped with a Functional hood scoop right above it.

The top half of the grill opening is ducted straight to the intercooler. It's not going through a radiator first.

I'm looking at this big as lower grille that is screaming FMIC and then this lil ass honda accord grille. WHY?



Ok so what you guys are saying is wait for the other reviews and magazies to say this car outruns the targeted compedaters and won't plow thru turns...

 

[crossbow]

The topic starter said the 0-60 was 5.5 seconds, then corrected it to say 6.2 seconds. Which is about what it should be given the weight, power, and additional drivetrain loss of an AWD system.

Magazines have clocked the standard 6s mtx at 6.7 0-60 (best time) but generally close to low 7's 0-60. Modified 6s mtx's have gotten low 6's, and 14.x 1/4's, with one actually bumping into high 13's (not posted) NA.

The MPS is a good car, but is hampered by its incredible curb weight (3589 lbs base model). Its a GT car, not a racer, and should be treated as such. Legacy competition, not SRT, redline, cobalt, STi, WRX, or Evo competition.

The most depressing thing I find about the MPS 6 is the fact that even though its a GT car, the rear seats are unable to be put down (supposedly), greatly hampering its utility. If mazda was interested in making this a GT car, why isn't it a hatchback with the ability to put down the rear seats? That would have been far more competitive then the additional "rear stiffening" caused by bolting the rear seats in place.

 

[Da 6]

body was upgraded in 120 places guess the rear seats was one of them...

Da6, the RX8 is considered a coupe by almost everyone.

Sorry I missed the reply earlier...I see it as a 4 door..Mazda's attempt to get the older RX-7 owners who now have familes back into the Rotary scene. It worked and everyone wants them. My Q is what happened when they got together and made the speed already family sedan?

 

[Mazda3]

The topic starter said the 0-60 was 5.5 seconds, then corrected it to say 6.2 seconds.

The topic starter has not changed his information, it still states 0-60 5.5sec.

Can someone confirm if this info is true? The only real question here is did R & T test the car and is this the correct time? Everything else is speculation thats been debated in 100 threads.

 

[crossbow]

I don't think any of the mags have actually done reviews...they're all the first look things still. Motortrend's(dec issue I think) had the MPS in it as well, but they didn't want to quote times as it wasn't on their track. Basically the same old same old...

"Not competitive against Evo/Sti, Great GT, understeers, no power on oversteer, tendancy to oversteer from throttle lifts"

Then of course they also got the curb weight completely wrong. It seems these are all the reviews from mazda allowing the various manufacturers to drive the car on "their" track...and not actual reviews from the respective mags...yet. This of course means any spec's/claims aren't done with the repective timing equipment on the mags respective testing tracks and should be taken with a grain of salt.

I'm waiting till we see the comparitive article vs the legacy GT and TSX with the cool sidecutout views, and the acceleration graphs.

 

[Super Matty P]

again, the only thing I'm saying is that numbers I quoted were given to the magazines by MAZDA THEMSELVES....this isn't estimates by reviewers or tested numbers.

MS6 0-62mph (100kmph) in 6.6s as claimed by Mazda in this month's SCC mag

 

[Mazda3]

again, the only thing I'm saying is that numbers I quoted were given to the magazines by MAZDA THEMSELVES....this isn't estimates by reviewers or tested numbers.

MS6 0-62mph (100kmph) in 6.6s as claimed by Mazda in this month's SCC mag

Yes, we all know these numbers.

Just wondering if maybe R & T was the first to actually test the car themselves. Possibly a new issue that subscribers recieve first that isn't on the shelves yet?

The thread starter has almost 1400 posts, so I doubt he would post complete BS info.

 

[crossbow]

I'm a subscriber and haven't seen the new mag yet. I still got the F430 Ferrari issue...mmmmm.

I don't think you usually see the reviews persay till the car's are in full production. Which as you know is now quite awhile for the US . You'll know its a real review when they got specs and graphs up the wazzo...if its a little blurb that says blah blah 0-60 of insert random time here, and nothing else (aka no 1/4 no braking distance, no skidpad/saloom) its just one of those damn'd preview things again.

Like motortrends damned Z06 article. Just like computer hardware industry, paper releases up the wazzo!

 

[Slider]

whats garbage about it....$30K for a car that is slower than it's V6 $23K equal....no proper intercooler, too heavy, suspension not up to "mazdaspeed" standards, etc..

for the record I LOVE the interior. I think it's beautiful. It's a crying shame though that the car costs as much as MANY other faster/nicer/more proven cars. Normally I would choose the mazda product because of it's "fun factor" and handling prowess but this car is NOT it.

I don't think they had a car enthusiast like you in mind when they designed and built the 6.

 

[Super Matty P]

maybe not Slider but when I think of "MAZDASPEED" I think of racing heritage and amazingly agile cars.....this new MS6 sounds more like a M6GT than a "mazdaspeed" product.

 

[Da 6]

What he said...

 

[JOS3]

i will reserve judgement until the US-spec mazdaspeed6 is released and tested.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

i will reserve judgement until the US-spec mazdaspeed6 is released and tested.

translation - until i con the dealer into giving me the keys so that i may summarily abuse one on a test drive

 

[JOS3]

disclaimer: comments made by captain krm p5 are in no way a reflection of the thoughts or opinions expressed by protejay5.