R&T: WRX vs Cobalt SS vs MS3 vs Lancer RA

"Best roll-on car in the group," said Kott. " - What does this mean? Fastest car from a roll?

"It hits far harder than any other engine in this test"

I think the MS3 would have faired a bit better if they tested on a road course like Luguna Seca or something. It's a bit heavy for Auto X
 
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WRX still looks like a Corolla, and the SS just needs an Budget Rental Car sticker in the back. (Although I am drawn to the SS it because its got the John Heinricy influence on it)

I'll stick with my MS3.
 
These threads make me really miss the good old days with Happy and Angry and MS3077...ah the good ol' days

Good article but you have to feel like R&T is biased against the MS3.


I am pretty excited to see the reviews for the new ford focus...
 
I drove one of the new Cobalt SS's before deciding on the MS3, and I thought it wasn't nearly as good as the MS3 in a number of areas, including speed (the turbo seemed to lose efficiency 1/2 way through the revs), interior quality, ride quality, cargo space, steering feel, and exterior appearance.
 
WRX still looks like a Corolla, and the SS just needs an Budget Rental Car sticker in the back. (Although I am drawn to the SS it because its got the John Heinricy influence on it)

I'll stick with my MS3.

You know, I hear so many people calling the corolla ugly. I think my GF's Corolla XRS is a nice looking car.

Oh, and get used to it. The MS3 is a fugly little car. (evil)
 
C&D will have their comparo out soon, you can bet on that. Hopefully they do the full audience with the new GTI, CooperS Werx and the SRT4.
 
the MS3 still hangs with the "latest and greatest" its 3 yrs. old and still invited to the party!! did you notice in the "performance" section the 3 lost four points for fuel economy but in the comparison section the avg. for the 3 and the SS were the same.--20.4. the wrx lost 4 pts. also and it avg. 22.2, best in the bunch. ok, i wasn't this picky when the 3 was #1 but i'm a MS3 *****!! they are all great cars. i would be happy, happy, with any of them. that is untill i had to carry a 50in. HD tv. ha-ha
 
You know, I hear so many people calling the corolla ugly. I think my GF's Corolla XRS is a nice looking car.

Oh, and get used to it. The MS3 is a fugly little car. (evil)


Fugly? wow your the first. Yeah the corolla xrs is a step better. but still it has the name "COROLLA" = "GRANDMA CAR".

I dont want to biased but its true people see that name and thats what they think, at least the MS3 is a nice sporty looking car, infact i think thats what they mean by zoom-zoom. lol
 
Hats off to chevy, that little car's faster around a track than an EVOX and STi for over 10k less. It is nothing less than a performance bargain.
 
I feel very happy with my car and I'm kinda happy that other cars are beating it, this only means Mazda engineers are going to have to work hard on the Ms3's successor, if they decide to do one of course.

In any event, I can't get the other 3 featured cars that beat the ms3 here :)
 
Have to wonder what Chevy was thinking when they designed (or.... I guess chose not to re-design) the exterior of the Cobalt SS. I mean, the sleeper arguement works for the MS3, because the base model already looks good, just give it a few aesthetic tweaks and we're good to roll, but you can't apply the same logic to the cobalt. It's terribly bland on the outside.
 
Hats off to chevy, that little car's faster around a track than an EVOX and STi for over 10k less. It is nothing less than a performance bargain.

Well I wouldn't say that. an EvoX would probly destroy it around a track, I just saw that one stomped a twin turbo BMW 1 series by 4 seconds around a good sized track.

However, it IS a performance bargain. And ASTONISHINGLY!!! PLAIN JANE LOOKING. This car in 4 door sedan version is the ultimate sleeper of all time.
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if that doesn't look like your grandma's cavalier...yet it could send you home with your tail between your legs. It's kind of hilarious. Way to go GM!
 
Well I wouldn't say that. an EvoX would probly destroy it around a track, I just saw that one stomped a twin turbo BMW 1 series by 4 seconds around a good sized track.

However, it IS a performance bargain. And ASTONISHINGLY!!! PLAIN JANE LOOKING. This car in 4 door sedan version is the ultimate sleeper of all time.
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if that doesn't look like your grandma's cavalier...yet it could send you home with your tail between your legs. It's kind of hilarious. Way to go GM!

But its so boooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring. **** I would have picked any other of the three cars before I even batted an eyelash at it.
 
seriously, if ford brings that Ford Focus RS to the states, I might have to consider trading the MS3 in. That this is a monster and overseas, it's crushing everything in its price range.

+1000000000000 I love the Ford Focus RS, such a neat looking car.
 
But its so boooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring. **** I would have picked any other of the three cars before I even batted an eyelash at it.

I wouldn't say I'd buy one, personally I'd rather have a SRT4 neon than that and save 1/2 price. If I had my pick of the 4 (If I got one for free), I'd without question pick the wrx (in wagon trim).

But admit it. It's hilarious that you would step up to this thing at a light/dragstrip and get destroyed! To me its very funny.
 
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