Question on Monster 5.0 Miatas
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johnsharpe
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Mazda100 said:I was reading on the price of building one, and it says that the conversion cost was 16,000$ (Plus the price of the car) is this true?? The engine should cost close to 4000$ Maybe this site was just high or something...is there that much fabrication in it? Maybe someone here has actually done it, and can tell me what it costs. Maybe they paid someone else to do the work
Thanks guys!
There used to be a shop in North Vancouver BC that built these cars, as well as replica Shelby Cobras. From the rumour mill, their cost started at $15000(cdn) plus a stock Miata. Upgrades included the drivetrain (engine, tranny, rear end, etc), wheels/tires, suspension, brakes plus others. The engine could be configured as you wanted (n/a, turbo, s/c, etc).
There used to be one of these up the street form my parent's place, Vortech s/c running 8psi, 3" exhaust, etc dyno'd at 367hp at the flywheel, according to the stamp on the intake manifold.
It sounded awesome and was super fast.
ha ha darin, i'm just a hard core mazda guy (since '78) that is why i don't care for them.Darin said:I just think you are using bad logic for a reason not to like the conversions - if you don't like them, 'not'-like them for the right reasons at least..
Why? What about a adding a turbo? Installing an RX-7 rear? FE3 conversions? Are these still considered Miatas? What's the limit?
I call the V8 a Miata because it still drives and handles like a Miata. Same suspension points, same weight distribution, same driving position. Until you drive it, it's hard to describe how well it handles.
I also like the idea of doing more with less. My 1.6L Miata has dynoed 285 rwhp. That was at 12psi and nitrous. I like the idea of having 178.125 hp/L, that's pretty impressive to me. I think I have a pretty nice turbo Miata, but the V8 is more fun to drive.
When we were building the V8, the muscle car friends would say we are fixing the Miata. I always said we were fixing the 302 by putting it in a respectable chassis. Until you actually tear a Miata down, it's pretty amazing how adaptable the stock chassis is. It's like it was made for the conversion.
Free test drives to anyone willing to come to PA.
-Scott
Mazda100 said:
See, I guess you have to ask yourself:
"Self, do I want a fast CAR, or a fast MIATA?"
"What" is faster to put a v8 in a miata? Do you mean V8 miatas are 'faster' than mustangs? that's a poor comparison. There'll ALWAYS be a faster car, somewhere...
Scott - have you dyno'd the v8 Miata? Will you do the swap for MY car, if I drove it to you?
No if you put a V-8 in a Mazda Miata it is faster then a Stock Mustang 5.0. Because it is lighter. Is it worth the money to do the swap? Or is it better to spend that money ona stang? I'm trying to see if it's worth the money to do the swap, or if I should just get a mustang. Although I would hate to be in a wreck at all, I'd sure hate to be in a wreck in a Mita.
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Dexter said:
FMII kits on pre1999 Miatas could run 12 psi on stock goods, I believe with garrett style T3s. post 1999 Miatas running FMII turbo kits were limited to 9 psi and a custom intake manifold running extra injectors.
the upcoming FM4 system will push a "comfortable 350+ whp"
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Mazda100 said:
$20K - $3000 for the car = $17K...fairly accurate by most standards.
There happens to be a V8 miata for sale on Ebay right now...
As mentioned before, unless you can do the work yourself, figure $15-20K in parts and labor.
Check out Miata.net forums under engine swaps, etc.
