i know ive called those dealers. they all want to sell the stuff at retail, and i have to tack on an additional tank of gas just to drive up there, making the speakers like 20 bucks more. the one guy wouldnt ship them to me and the other people said they couldnt get the 820s for some reason. ill order them and take my chance i suppose. cause ill be pissed if i drive all the way up there and they suck as opposed to having them delivered and i can always resell them.
thats why i just asked for peoples help instead. ill take the word of you and ryan over my own. i used to have pioneers and i was happy. not expensive ones either.