Proof My Car exsists, and my plan...

daedalus

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BANANA OF FURY
to take over the world..... (rockon) or at least rebuild my MSP.

Many of you know my unfortunate situation. But I've moved on. My therapist told me to do so. I just was sitting here, and I never officially introduced you to my car (never had the time before i was in the boom-boom club). And I thought I would set the record straight with my plan for the rebuild, my timeline, and to show you a couple pics as the poor babe sits right now.

Engine Build:
- MAM Shortblock 8:1 CR
- Perrin FMIC w/ Greddy Type S
- Perrin SRI
- DSM AFC Controller
- GHL 3" Downpipe
- Greddy SP2 Catback (If i dont get scammed from the guy I bought it from on these boards! Two weeks, and still no word!)
- Greddy TT Full Auto
- Greddy Profec B Spec 2
- Spec Stage 3 Hybrid
- AWR Front/Rear Mounts (M/T)
- NGK 1 Step Colder Plugs
- Corksport Clutch Line
- Kartboy bushings
- Redline fluids in tranny and engine after break in.

Engine Blingity Bling
- DGM CF Engine Cover
- DGM CF Oil Cap
- Hose Techniques Silver Kit
- Greddy Catch Can

Interior:
- Crappy Autometer Guages that came with the car...
- Alpine CDA-9835 (Is teh bling)
(I'm looking for a pod like horse has made to finish it off)
- Greddy Counter-weight shift knob
- B&M SS
- Sesy Shift Boot

God it seems like such a little list, but oh my lord is it killing my pocket book. And to think i'm still making payments and insuring the car every month... to have it sit.

And now for the pictures. (What you all really wanted to see (hi) )
The two mazdas awaiting treatment for March's World of Wheels show... Only mine looks like a damn 4X4 b/c it has no engine in it.
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The RX7 is getting a full build to showcase the extreme build ups available at the shop doing the work...
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And finally, the owners personal car (5-Spd IS300) which will be getting some boost very soon... and is also getting fixed up for the WOW show.
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So that is my little update. Wish us luck on the build. I'm a little worried we wont get her back together, ever. We were handed a box of parts, screws, bolts, etc from Mazda when we picked up my car. Its gonna be a big damn jigsaw puzzle with all this aftermarket stuff! (boom04)

Peace guys, and Merry Christmas!

*edit* I found this one pic I had i took the day I bought it... It was on cardomain so its bad quality. sorry. At least it doesnt look like a 4X4 in it!

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Thats a pretty impressive list of mods.
Im curious though as to why you went with such a low compression ratio?
How much power do you plan on making ?
If you dont plan on making a butt load of power, that low compression and large intercooler could make daily driving a bit of a pain.
Just my opinion of course.
 
good luck. Just think, money doesn't matter much anyway. And you will have an unbreakable monster of a car!
 
I would think again about going 8:1 on the Compression Ratio, unless you plan on running insane amounts of boost (which you won't do on the factory turbo), I would go no lower than 8.5:1 for driveability and reasons of performance out of boost. 8.5:1 lets me run up to 16-18psi on the GT28RS with no detonation on 91 octane.
 
Dont get me wrong... The 8:1 is scaring me. It isnt my first choice, but I dont know that I have a choice. Beau has told me the block comes with 8:1 and i'm assuming it cant be changed. I am gonna have to call him b/c it does raise a big problem. This is going to be my daily driver after all.

And i'm not too worried about the intercooler. Why would it make it a pain to drive?
 
it wont be... 8:1 with extra timing > 8.5:1 with pulled timing.

and safer... seriously, people make a bigger deal out of a lower compression ratio (for drivability sake) than it should be

I have 8:1, but then again I have a monster turbo and plans for higher boost too... but suit yourself
 
if it makes you feel any better I will have my engine together while still N/A sometime in early January... I'll let you know how much slower/pain in the ass it is to drive with 8:1 compression
 
yea thats all great but what boost you gonna run and are you using an ems at all??? Your gonna need something... Its great your getting all these parts but what are your plans? what you shooting for? Track? Show? Daily?
 
RyanJayG said:
if it makes you feel any better I will have my engine together while still N/A sometime in early January... I'll let you know how much slower/pain in the ass it is to drive with 8:1 compression
cool, I was wondering if it would be a pain/dangerous to drive our cars with that low compression rate cause my engine might be built just before I get a turbo. Awaiting results.
 
If he's keeping the stock turbo I think the stock pcm will more than compensate for the lower compression.
 
Yea for right now (and possibly forever) i'm keeping the stock turbo. The car will attend shows but i dont like the ricey bling bling, tv's in every headrest s*** that cars have become. I am all about function over form. The engine bling bling is more for my sake of cleaning up the engine bay, b/c i am friggin anal about how clean my engine is. At any parking lot gathering, my hood is allways up!

The car will run at every autoX in the upcoming season (my first season, woot woot!) and i'm also going to be "racing" or driving around our local road course fairly frequently. Huge amounts of power arent neccesary. I dont see the profit of making 350whp b/c for me, I wont take full advantage of it, and the problems of upgrading driveshafts, etc outweigh the benefits. I just want around 250hp to keep up with some of the faster cars on the straights. And keep in mind... this is my DAILY DRIVER. It has to be dependable, reliable, and cant crap out on me.

I am willing to sacrifice power, etc for reliablilty and this is another reason i am trying to limit the HP output.

I appreciate your thoughts on the CR, and EM. Please keep the ideas flowing. Your helping me reassure mytself of my plans and any kinks i might not have thought of.
 
IMO, cars with low compresion lack low end power and require more boost to compensate. At least that's been my experience. Even on my GTX with 1.6l 7.9:1 comp with the stock (tiny) vj14.
He won't be able to add timing considering he only using the dsm afc.
I don't know the specs on the perrin fmic but that core is huge. If there is any associated "lag" with it combined with the low comp, it could make for a very peaky combo. I don't think that would fair too well in autox.
Ymmv,
 
if your autoxing id say you need to go with stock compression... uprgrade suspension, stock turbo only good till 15psi. Youll need to pull timing over 7-8psi... so ems i would say is a must. With your engine cover... id say your only gonna want that on for shows because the heat of racing is prob going to bubble the clear. If you want to be showing and so forth you pretty much taking the cheap route thats most likely going to end up costly later.

Im down with all the rules in the AutoX world but i would assume these mods are going to put you into a very competive class...
 
I would be put in a competitive class due to engine modification correct? Cuz for right now the suspension is bone stock. I understand what your saying with the engine cover, and thats a good call. While I havent heard of people with them having their covers bubble, i think it is a problem that would happen over time. I am going to have to take it off during any autox, and road race events.

It looks like my biggest problem right now is the CR (I am really wanting to change to 8.5:1) but i wont do the stock CR... You say that the stock turbo is only good up until 15psi. WIth those mods, that should be well over over 250whp shouldn't it?

And I realize I am taking a short step for the show stuff, but it isnt my primary concern. What am I skimping on that I shouldnt be?
 
if you plan on sticking with the small stock turbo and keeping the boost relatively low then 8.5:1 would be fine... and I know Beau will build it to your specs... he'll do it with 8.5:1, and any overbore you want... though some changes may add a little time. I dont know.

I'm going with 8:1 because I have a GT3071 turbo Thumper kit going on with plans for high boost... so 8:1 is just safer. and it still wont be as weak or hard to drive on the street as people make it sound. though for auto-x who knows... you'd have to try different combinations to figure which is truely faster on a given course. lower compression with more timing, or higher compression with less timing.

if you dont plan on haveing any way to change timing then I would worry about detonation with even 8.5:1 at 15 psi on that little turbo because temps would be much higher than my turbo at 15 psi.
 
That sounds like a plan. I'm gonna call beau and try and get it to be 8.5:1. In terms of running 15psi, I wouldn't dream of it. I'm looking at running 10psi daily (with the afc controller 10 psi map) and maybe 12psi once in a while if the tuning supports it. I want the microtech, but honestly, my pocketbook is now bone dry.

In terms of whats faster at AutoX, I dont really care. I just want to get out there and drive my car. i'm not worried about being competitive.
 
welll if your just looking to drive in the AutoX then i wouldnt be worried about it. I know for a fact that it will bubble if you ask azian6er hell tell you that... As for putting down 250whp, its a good thing to hope for but i really think your gonna have a hard time with just those mods. Look at kooldino hes got far more then you and an ems and he got 250whp on his last dyno pull at 14psi on a t3 (iirc).
 
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