Profec B Spec II Settings Library

Leonardo said:
bump for any more advice
I think everyone has that, it's just a reminder that it's on when you first turn on the car, I do the same just click the select button twice, and then it's good.
If you think about it, imagine you're out boosting 15psi with race gas one day and forget to turn it off, then you fill up with regular gas and hit 15psi without knowing, it would probably suck.
So i guess it's like a built it safety feature, to remind you.
 
Well I have changed my settings.

I'm running
Set = 42%
Gain = 31%
Set gain = 90


This is good for 11 psi... but I spike really bad... up to 14.5lbs.. What am i doing wrong?
 
ProPartsUSA.COM said:
Well I have changed my settings.

I'm running
Set = 42%
Gain = 31%
Set gain = 90


This is good for 11 psi... but I spike really bad... up to 14.5lbs.. What am i doing wrong?
More than likely, you need to turn your setgain down. You're keeping the wastegate closed until 9 psi, then trying to open it up in a short period of time. Try turning it down to 5 psi or so, and then keep raising it up until you start to spike, then turn it a notch back down. The way you have it set right now, the wastegate doesn't even see "any" pressure until you are already at 9 psi (and it doesn't have time to respond).

Let us know how it goes!
 
Little Beavis said:
bump for a recent question. . . and to see if ProParts has had any luck.
I trie dthat it didn't work though. lol right now i have my setgain at like 10 and it spikes to 9.5 psi when im trying to run 7.5 psi.
 
well, i've updated my settings for a more consistant 7-7.5psi

Set: 18%
Gain: 21
Setgain: 50
(warning and limiter dont work right as I mentioned before)


this new setting will spike to anywhere from 8-8.3psi and then hold extremely strong to redline... boost is still at about 6.9-7psi at redline

Also, my mods are: Essentialspeed stages 1 & 2 w/ upgraded intercooler (14"x9"x4")
 
By the way guys, I found this on a VW GTI forum (which was copied from an EVO fourm). Pretty usefull to set the unit...

Before you begin, you should have an idea of what you're aiming for. For EVOs, 19psi (131 kPa) seems to be a safe setting based on what people on the forums have found since it is close to what the stock boost pressure is, yet there is an increase in power due to the Greddy unit keeping the boost close to 19psi while the stock boost tapers off as the RPMs increase. I will henceforth refer to what you're aiming for as "desired boost pressure".

Definitions and things you need to know before you start:

SET This is how you set the boost pressure. Rather than setting it in psi or kPa, the Greddy unit allows you to adjust it as a percentage value, from 0% (greddy unit essentially turned off) to 100% (greddy unit will set the boost as high as it can). This setup demands a certain amount of trial-and-error to properly configure it since you have to make adjustments, then drive under WOT (Wide Open Throttle) and see what the maximum boost pressure achieved was throughout the entire RPM range. SET SHOULD BE SET TO A CONSERVATIVE VALUE WHEN BEGINNING TO TUNE YOUR GREDDY UNIT. 30% SEEMS TO BE A CONSERVATIVE SETTING BASED ON MY TESTING AND BASED ON OTHER REPORTED NUMBERS FROM EVO OWNERS AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE LINK BETWEEN SET AND GAIN (see GAIN below).

GAIN is defined in the manual as the value to adjust the "boost consistency". You don't really need to know exactly what that means. You should set GAIN to 0 when beginning, and you will then test the car under WOT while paying attention to the boost pressure. If the boost goes up and then falls off at higher RPM, you will want to increase the GAIN by a conservative amount (5% should be relatively conservative to begin with, then when you want to fine-tune it, you can go down to intervals of 1%). When you increase the GAIN value, the corresponding boost that you will go up to will be higher even if you leave the SET value alone. GAIN SHOULD BE SET TO 0 WHEN BEGINNING TO TUNE YOUR GREDDY UNIT.

START BOOST (also known as SET GAIN because that is what is displayed on the unit when adjusting this setting) is the lowest boost that the Greddy unit will begin increasing the boost from under WOT. You want this to be as close to the SET value as possible, since you want to keep as close to your desired boost as possible. However, setting it too close to the SET value will cause the boost to spike. You should set this to a conservative setting when beginning to tune your Greddy unit. Then you can fine-tune it later to get it as close to the SET value as possible without causing the boost to spike. Fortunately, you can set this in psi or kPa, thankfully Greddy didn't decide to let this be adjustable in % like the SET value. START BOOST SHOULD BE SET TO YOUR DESIRED BOOST PRESSURE MINUS 4 PSI (about 28 kPa).

WARNING is the maximum boost that you do not want to exceed. Fortunately, you can also set this in psi or kPa like the START BOOST value. When the boost exceeds the WARNING level, it will kick in the LIMITER, which decreases the boost a certain amount that you can set. WARNING SHOULD BE SET TO YOUR DESIRED BOOST PRESSURE PLUS 1 PSI (about 7 kPa).

LIMITER is the boost percentage that the Greddy unit will lower to when the WARNING boost pressure is hit. LIMITER SHOULD BE SET TO YOUR SET VALUE MINUS 4%.

PEAK is the peak boost value that the unit has seen since the last time it was cleared. To clear it, go to the peak boost display, and hold down the set knob until the unit beeps and "---" is displayed. IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO CLEAR THIS BEFORE YOU BEGIN JUST IN CASE YOUR UNIT HAS A HIGH BOOST ALREADY RECORDED.

LAST BOOST shows you the last boost that was recorded every time the accelerator is released for 3 seconds. TURN LAST BOOST ON BECAUSE IT IS A GOOD DIAGNOSTIC TOOL WHEN TUNING YOUR UNIT.

Keep in mind that when displaying in kPa, it does not show it technically in kPa, but rather misleadingly in bars, which Greddy inconveniently tries to justify by sticking x100 kPa next to the display. Therefore, 100 kPa will be displayed as 1.00 x100 kPa. Psi will also unfortunately be displayed in psi x10 so that 19 psi will show as 190, adding to the confusion.

Another very important thing to keep in mind is that when you first power on your car or the Greddy unit, WARNING will be set to 14.5 psi (100kPa, or 1 bar) until you interact with the Greddy unit by pressing any button. This "feature" is not documented in the manual.

Also keep in mind that atmospheric conditions affect the operation of your boost controller. When it is hot, you will get different results than when it is cold. One possible way of solving this issue is tuning your Greddy unit under the "Lo" mode for when it is relatively cold, and under the "High" mode for when it is relatively hot. Unfortunately, two modes are hardly enough for somebody that needs to account for very different summer and winter climates, and also for more aggressive settings for when increased performance is desired.

The maximum boost that you will see is also not consistent throughout the gears, which adds even more to the confusion. Unfortunately, if you've already increased your start boost to the maximum setting that doesn't give you surging, then there seems to be no way to get around this variance in boost pressure from low to high gears. I don't know if this is a limitation of the greddy unit specifically, or if it's something inherent to electronic boost controllers in general. The only two things that you can do to compensate is the following:

1. Set it to the "safest" of the settings that does not trip your limiter. To do this, tune the unit to your desired boost pressure in fifth gear.

2. Tune the "Lo" and "Hi" settings corresponding to having the boost maximized during the low gears and during the high gears. This would require you to manually hit the button to switch to the "Hi" setting when you shift to third gear or whatever you started tuning your "Hi" setting at. This is why Greddy makes the wireless remote switch that straps to your steering wheel to switch between "Hi" and "Lo" settings.

The following steps should be taken in exactly this order, taking into consideration all of the previous information:
1. Change boost pressure units to psi if so desired (see manual).
2. Set WARNING to your desired boost pressure plus 1 psi (about 7 kPa) (see above).
3. Set START BOOST (SET GAIN) to your desired boost pressure minus 4 psi (about 28 kPa)(see above).
4. Clear PEAK boost value (see above).
5. Set LAST BOOST to ON (see above).
6. Set GAIN to 0 (see above).
7. Set SET to 30% (see above).
8. Set LIMITER to SET minus 4% (26% if you followed #7).
9. Test for boost falloff at high rpm. You should probably do this in a wide open area with no other cars nearby and preferably no cops. It is also good to have somebody in the car with you that can watch the gauge while you concentrate on not wrecking your car. If there is no boost falloff, then go to #10. If there is boost falloff, then increase the GAIN by 5% and test again. Keep in mind that when you increase the GAIN value, the corresponding boost that you will go up to will be higher even if you leave the SET value alone. Repeat until the boost pressure does not decrease, or until you feel surging. If you feel surging and the boost pressure still decreases (not sure if this is possible) then decrease to the last level that you did not feel surging at.
10. Increase SET by 2% and adjust LIMITER accordingly, then test again. Keep increasing by 2% until desired boost level is obtained.
11. Increase START BOOST (SET GAIN) by 1 increment and test until surging is felt or the WARNING level is hit and the display turns red, then decrease to the previous setting.

Once you have followed these steps, you will have roughly tuned your unit. To fine-tune it, repeat steps 9 and 10 except this time only increase or decrease by 1 increment.
 
that is an excellent translation of the instruction manual... it took me a while to get comfortable w/ my unit and get it tuned up well... that write-up puts it in perfect english for anyone to follow.

good find
 
this is a question to all the people that have their set gain (start boost) up at around 50, does it hold the boost thru all five gears? I turned mine up that high and the turbo spooled but felt as if it didnt release or kick in I guess you could say till like 5,000 rpm. Also as I was shifting thru the gears the boost dropped off. If I would down shift It would stay where I wanted but not racing thru the gears, why would it do that? I turned it down to 15 and it now kicks in at 2500 and is spooled by 3500-4000 and spikes to 10.5 and holds at 9.5 all the way from about 4,000 to redline in all five gears, anyone know why? Dont you want the start boost as high as you can? when the set gain is that high it feels like the hesitation everyone talks about, does that happen with eveyones profec-II?
 
very helpfull

Once I read this I went and did a test, boy what a differance! Im now boosting steady at 9.5 psi with a little spike to 10.2 thanks guys.
 
Repost my last post for ProParts

Here is my setting for a nice 7-7.5ish... if you drop the setgain from where I have it to about 40, it'll only spike to about 8-8.1... with setgain at 50, it spikes to about 8-8.5 dependant on what gear yopu're in


TooleBox said:
well, i've updated my settings for a more consistant 7-7.5psi

Set: 18%
Gain: 21
Setgain: 50
(warning and limiter dont work right as I mentioned before)


this new setting will spike to anywhere from 8-8.3psi and then hold extremely strong to redline... boost is still at about 6.9-7psi at redline

Also, my mods are: Essentialspeed stages 1 & 2 w/ upgraded intercooler (14"x9"x4")
 
you guys setting the limiter to 99% are not using the limiter correctly. it is a percentage because it is the percentage it will lower to when you hit warning, if your set is 30% you want it to lower to maybe 25%... not more.
 
Proparts, try turning your gain down alot, and increase your boost with the set knob. at about 15% gain, I get a good steady boost with little or no spike. And set your start about .5 PSI below where you want to hold boost. That HELPS prevent falloff. if you want warning and limiter to work. Set the warning to the PSI you want it, and the limiter % should be lower than your set %.
Set: 26% (9.5 PSI)
Gain: 15%
Start Boost: 85 (waste gate wont open untill 8.5 PSI)
Warning: 105 (Unit hits warning at 10.5 PSI)
Limiter: 20% (Drops it to 7.5 PSI)
 
03BlkMicaSPD said:
you guys setting the limiter to 99% are not using the limiter correctly. it is a percentage because it is the percentage it will lower to when you hit warning, if your set is 30% you want it to lower to maybe 25%... not more.
actually, the way it works is by taking away said percentage from the original "set"

for instance... if your "set" is at 20% and your limiter is at 8psi... then you hit the limiter which is set at say 4%... it will decrease the "set" from 20% to 16%


my limiter is set at 8psi, but doesnt actually trigger until about 8.5psi in which my limiter is set to 4% which pulls me down from 8.5 to about 6.5and then back up and holds around 7.5(thumb)


EDIT: i think i just said what you said in different words... did that make any sense? im tired..
 
What happened to listing the mods for this thread? I take it that "set" will yield a different boost level for everyone depending on your mods correct?
 
i should have read this before i just started playing since i switched to high one day and hit 24.5 psi of boost.... but now i know how to tune it better and i will post my settings when i get my car back but what i do remember is:
boost 14.5
warning at 17 psi
limiter at 30
 
OK i just installed the ebc....i CANNOT figure this thing out...i dont have another boost gauge so right now im just relying on the greddy. when i put the Set to 30% i boost at like 4-6psi...my numbers just look so much different than all of yours? what am i doing wrong? i cant remember my other setting..but there all normal..like what the instruction implyed..im all stock cept for this..any help?
 
did you remove all the white plugs, I had the same problem cause I only removed the plugs I wsa using. I dont know if I would try setting that without an alternative boost gauge, but thats just me. Hopefully that does the trick. good luck.
 
speed1016 said:
did you remove all the white plugs, I had the same problem cause I only removed the plugs I wsa using. I dont know if I would try setting that without an alternative boost gauge, but thats just me. Hopefully that does the trick. good luck.

ok i went and looked at it,,are you talking about the valve? the things that says "Greddy boost control" on it? b/c i looked at it and there are 2 wires goin into it and on one of the sides there is a white plug. rae there not supposed to be any white plugs at all? i dont wanna mess anything up lol

thanks man
 

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