Pics Of Rerouted AEM SRI
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gawd, i hate looking at that AT intake......completely worthless, i dont what AEM was thinking at the time (hand)1Canuck2 said:
I like my AEM SRI and would refute that it is completely worthless. Have you ever driven a car fitted with this model?
It does make a difference, and I also think it looks good in the engine bay, and those were my two criteria for purchasing it:
1. Get rid of the ugly black plastic and
2. improve on the restrictive intake of the stock system.
The reality of the SRI vs CAI in our cars is there is no huge difference between the two, and there is no huge gain from either. My butt dyno notices a difference in what I would call "throttle response", and it sounds good to my ear, thus it can hardly be "completely worthless". I have also not noticed any degradation in performance from heatsoak that everyone says "should" happen. There have been so many back and forth discussions about which is better and why. And I have yet to hear anything conclusive that proves that the CAI is a noticeable improvement over the SRI, just people opinions and feelings.
My friends Mustang GT got 9 HP (dynoed results) out of a K&N SRI with heatshield, now that is $300 well spent! For the same money with a Mazda CAI or SRI mod we get 1 - 2 hp tops. Another few hundred $s on underdrive pulleys and he got 5 HP more. He justed added a $500 throttle body and got another 5 HP. From 228 HP to 247 HP for about $1300 US in parts.
It does make a difference, and I also think it looks good in the engine bay, and those were my two criteria for purchasing it:
1. Get rid of the ugly black plastic and
2. improve on the restrictive intake of the stock system.
The reality of the SRI vs CAI in our cars is there is no huge difference between the two, and there is no huge gain from either. My butt dyno notices a difference in what I would call "throttle response", and it sounds good to my ear, thus it can hardly be "completely worthless". I have also not noticed any degradation in performance from heatsoak that everyone says "should" happen. There have been so many back and forth discussions about which is better and why. And I have yet to hear anything conclusive that proves that the CAI is a noticeable improvement over the SRI, just people opinions and feelings.
My friends Mustang GT got 9 HP (dynoed results) out of a K&N SRI with heatshield, now that is $300 well spent! For the same money with a Mazda CAI or SRI mod we get 1 - 2 hp tops. Another few hundred $s on underdrive pulleys and he got 5 HP more. He justed added a $500 throttle body and got another 5 HP. From 228 HP to 247 HP for about $1300 US in parts.
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LOL.....dont take it to heart. I actually have driven a P5 with that model intake, and at the time wasnt looking for any differences. BUT!! i can tell you that you are gathering much more heat than the "rerouted AEM MT intake", since it sits so close to the engine. Boxing in the filter (rerouted intake) with a heat shield would be even better, since you can still get cooler air coming in from the hole where the CAI goes through (with the help of a custom ram air kit1Canuck2 said:
). I used to have the Injen CAI, so i know the differences.......and yes, you get much better throttle response with the SRI than you do with the CAI......deciding which one is better is up to the buyer.Here's an old pic of the AEM AT SRI: brought to you by 1Canuck2
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robin.smith1/Engine.jpg
Pic of the rerouted AEM MT SRI: brought to you by CitizenPro
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I am not "taking it to heart", I am simply disagreeing with a statement that I feel could mislead people. No biggie, but I gave my two cents.
This subject seems to come up time and time again with people spewing all different kinds of "knowledge" on the subject. All I can tell you is I "feel" the difference is not worthy of argument. I don't have scientific proof, but then no-one has presented proof to convince me that CAI is better. I think the heatsoak issue is a fallicy though as the CAI is longer and also gets hot from just being in the engine bay. Any difference in air temp is probably offset by the difference in airspeed/pressure (using the long straw / short straw logic) to the point of my original statement that there are not much gains to be had by either and not much difference between the two.
Here's another exciting thread from recent days on the subject:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72400&page=3&pp=20
This subject seems to come up time and time again with people spewing all different kinds of "knowledge" on the subject. All I can tell you is I "feel" the difference is not worthy of argument. I don't have scientific proof, but then no-one has presented proof to convince me that CAI is better. I think the heatsoak issue is a fallicy though as the CAI is longer and also gets hot from just being in the engine bay. Any difference in air temp is probably offset by the difference in airspeed/pressure (using the long straw / short straw logic) to the point of my original statement that there are not much gains to be had by either and not much difference between the two.
Here's another exciting thread from recent days on the subject:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72400&page=3&pp=20
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(thumb) good 'ol FC3s Boy tryin to make a sale.FC3s Boy said:
1Canuck2: Its cool bro......we all have our opinions.
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Well for Pete's sake...a bunch of you need to get together, pay for some dyno time, and dyno each person's car with both CAI and SRI. THEN, with the same car and intakes, you need to hit the drag strip, and with the same driver, do runs on both cars, with both intakes. THEN we'll see which is better..no arguing.
Who's gonna take up this challenge? You'll be a pioneer. It's almost hard to believe, that with the SRI/CAI controversy, that it hasn't been done already by some tuner magazine. Canuck, which do you have? We'll find someone from the torontoprotege club with the opposite kind, I'll pay for HALF of the dyno time($85, and you and the other guy can pony up $40 each, since both cars have to be tested with both intakes for consistancy), then I'll drive both cars down the strip at Cayuga, with each intake tried out. You in?
Who's gonna take up this challenge? You'll be a pioneer. It's almost hard to believe, that with the SRI/CAI controversy, that it hasn't been done already by some tuner magazine. Canuck, which do you have? We'll find someone from the torontoprotege club with the opposite kind, I'll pay for HALF of the dyno time($85, and you and the other guy can pony up $40 each, since both cars have to be tested with both intakes for consistancy), then I'll drive both cars down the strip at Cayuga, with each intake tried out. You in?
p5sundevil
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lol, the ultimate test =)
I had a SRI and now I have a CAI, didnt notice a throttle response difference but I always rev to at least 1500(1.5k daily, 3.5k on launches) before going anyway so nvr have any sluggish response off the line. Basically I switched cause at the time no one had rerouted the AEM and the CAI's were the only ones I believed to actually be bringing cool air into the system. Only thing I would upgrade now is if I could upgrade my intake piping from alumnium to CF.....mmmm carbon fiber
I had a SRI and now I have a CAI, didnt notice a throttle response difference but I always rev to at least 1500(1.5k daily, 3.5k on launches) before going anyway so nvr have any sluggish response off the line. Basically I switched cause at the time no one had rerouted the AEM and the CAI's were the only ones I believed to actually be bringing cool air into the system. Only thing I would upgrade now is if I could upgrade my intake piping from alumnium to CF.....mmmm carbon fiber
Gen1, I see you posted in othe other thread too. I am not that interested in investing money to prove my point. I am convinced enough to satisfy me that there is no difference worth all these posts (yet still I post).
You'll note that MPChi thinks the SRI conversion of his CAI is better, and there was someone else recently who posted something similar. If those guys think SRI is better, I am satisfied in my assersion that SRI is NOT WORSE. Beyond that, I'll keep posting this point of view when the opportunity arises and not be bothered by those who remain unconvinced.
Thanks for the offer though, its good of you...
You'll note that MPChi thinks the SRI conversion of his CAI is better, and there was someone else recently who posted something similar. If those guys think SRI is better, I am satisfied in my assersion that SRI is NOT WORSE. Beyond that, I'll keep posting this point of view when the opportunity arises and not be bothered by those who remain unconvinced.
Thanks for the offer though, its good of you...
twilightprotege
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i think that you'll all find that an SRI make more power on a dyno, but a cai will make more real world power - ie when the bonnet (hood for you yanks) is closed
but we're seriously only talking such a small amount of power - just buy what you want to buy and be happy
but we're seriously only talking such a small amount of power - just buy what you want to buy and be happy
TXMazdaSpeeder
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Gen1GT said:
its the breather for the crankcase
FunkyBuddha
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no..the tranny is bigger on the AT cars.
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Yes you can.....just turn it sideways. Same way as this thread shows you.ProDriva said:
Well duh, how stupid am I. That was the original point of this thread, so of course CitizenPro is correct. In fact, the Manual version will move the filter itself further over to the side, over the hole where the CAIs go, so its prolly the best buy if you agree with all the heatsoak stuff that pops up in the CAI vs SRI debate.
