thanks orgspd! i really appreciate it! I had a shop cut of the vibrant muffler about 2 inch from the axle hanger of the vibrant exhaust and had them mandrel bend me a section to the hks with a slight angle! so it can be unbolted. and it sounds as good as it looks! i love the way they look on evo's, sti's, supra etc. I wanted to do something different and how the elite cars do!