Piasini Engineering Info..

[456whpEvo8]

Hey whats up? This is my 4th posting in 2 years. I am just a forum reader. But it look like everyone is Confused on how to order or get info on the piasini flash and V3.

Here are some Examples with V3

Version 3 Piasini Flash Tune is done.

Key points are:
- Higher boost, and more consistent,
- Holds boost better,
- Throttle is held open,
- Power is more linear,
- Fueling is slightly leaner (very safe),
- TC issues are fixed. 1st and 2nd

Power till 7000 YaaaY


I will make it extremely simple for everyone and you don't even have to PM some random person you don't know (bang)

Piasini is based in Europe and Australia.

Here is there website

http://www.piasiniengineering.it

Here is the OZ mazda boards with all the data logs you need.

http://www.ozmazdaclub.com/forum/piasiniengineering/

The Interweb is my friend (first)

 

[Bravnik]

OZ ECU is DIFFERENT than ours, thus the results are NOT the same.

Piasini support in the US non existent. Until there are supporting documents in the US to support the tune, NOBODY will trust it. To date there are only a few out there, no dyno's that I would trust and none but one I know of has any mods to speak of. The only car I know that has any mods worth talking about reports lower PSI with the mods (16psi I think it was max).

I really wished this s*** would ether die or provide some serious documentation to support it's claims in the US and on cars with full basic bolt-ons.

If you want to sell the Piasini tune in the US then by all means toss some flashes on cars for FREE. Pick a few people on each coast who are un-biased, give them the Flash for free and have them dyno and post results. If the results are good then the product will sell itself.

I also find it funny that the company that pushed the Paisini tune V3 (Top thread in OZ Forums) in your LINK is now OUT OF BUSINESS. Looking through the threads people with almost full bolt-ons are reporting 16psi max.

Dude there is simply NO WAY a single flash can LEARN your mods.

 

[Cue]

Honestly I think..... Oh wait.. Full House is on!! gotta go

 

[PCspeed3]

website only shows stuff for the regular mazda 3

 

[Cue]

Looking through the threads people with almost full bolt-ons are reporting 16psi max.

Look... the Cobb AP and the CP-E SB can do much better than 16psi. I'm not sure where you're getting your info.... Wait a sec, we talking bout the Piasini??.... I'm gonna go play with my hamster... he's so CUTE!!.. goojy wooji gaga... bebe booboo bahbah...

 

[456whpEvo8]

I am simply helping people that want the info out. If you want to argue or dis agree go right ahead.

 

[ForceFed]

Are you gone yet....?

 

[derspi]

I'm pretty sure if people wanted to they can find the info but thanks anyway. Unfortunately, not too many care to spend their hard earned money on a product that has little to no support when there are other options.

 

[456whpEvo8]

Are you gone yet....?

Nope, (hippy)

 

[tuckaloe]

This isn't quite "getting the word out". You were schooled on why the Pissonit tune isn't commercially viable for the US market and this is the best you can do?

Frankly, I want to like this tune. I have a thing for Italian performance. And no support is tragically and typically Italian. "It is the best in the world and you are a fool for having issues".

Give us something to work with that's applicable to our (no OZ) market.

 

[tuckaloe]

Can ANYONE out there address the legitimate and valid concerns being asked about here? Someone like SassiMac on the OZ forum would be a welcomed change.....

 

[MSMS3]

I think we all are waiting for an American MS3 with this tune with current (I mean recent) full dyno results and and complete data logging from someone we trust.

Maybe if a Piasini company rep would offer a reflashed ECU on loan to one of our respected members for objective side-by-side comparison testing, there could be some traction instead of just a lot of talk. We know what the AP and Standback tunes will and will not do.

What strains the credibility of the Piasini advocates to me is the claim of being able to get increasing power from our little K04 turbos at higher rpm's - above 6K, when we know there are serious thermal ineffeciency issues with that little turbo being able to push well up that high.

When dyno charts are produced showing the hp curve continuing to rise above 5500 rpm, mated with claims that the stock ECU is holding back power because the throttle is closing, red flags go up. This is especially true when we know that other tuners who have developed ways to get around the throttle position issue, still acknowledge that the engine falls flat after 5500 rpm.

I'd love to be wrong. Piasini guys, how about a loan of a Piasini tuned ECU to someone here with the interest in data logging and dynoing a before and after tune? After all, the Piasini is supposed to adjust to any bolt on's we may have, right? Sure would be a great way to quiet the skepticism and generate serious interest ($$$) in the the product.

 

[SuperStretch18]

Alright, well **** you to.

Well played...

**** This Ghetto s***..... If U Dont Like What It Is Then Shut Ur Mouth ******* Cobb Sucker................

And this...

These two posts are exactly why people in the US will never appreciate the Piasini product. No evidence of anything offered from US vehicles and a dumb ******* attitude like if you don't take all the BS that the reps spew as fact, there is somehow something wrong with you.

After the last Piasini thread, I decided to refresh my research on this flash (I want that hour back) and it's honestly pretty baffling how the US market was handled. Things like people asking for dyno results and the rep responding "that's my cue to leave..." WTF is that about?

Regardless, the point is moot. The last thread like this clarified that the US rep is not doing mail-in flashes anymore, so unless you are local to Long Island or feel up for a road trip, it's not going to happen.

I am very interested in hearing about Cue's hamster though. That sonofabitch is cute!

 

[derspi]

After all, the Piasini is supposed to adjust to any bolt on's we may have, right?

I hope you know that this is just marketing banter right? This will never happen unless we start stuffing AI-level ECUs in our cars.

I like hamsters too...until they pee on your hand.

 

[Bravnik]

I hope you know that this is just marketing banter right? This will never happen unless we start stuffing AI-level ECUs in our cars.

I like hamsters too...until they pee on your hand.

At least their turds are easy to pickup.

 

[MSMS3]

I hope you know that this is just marketing banter right? This will never happen unless we start stuffing AI-level ECUs in our cars.

I like hamsters too...until they pee on your hand.

My comment was sarcasm. I thought that was understood. I don't believe anything coming from the Piss-in-it, oh, i meant Piasani people right now.

 

[yamomoto]

I can compare both tuning dumps from Piasini and from AP, place them in the editor on each other.
So tuning dump and stock dump.
Honestly speaking, I do not know, which there can attract attention?
Piasini has sharp, rough, torn tuning of engine. (eek2)
There are many errors in changes in the calibrations.
I express regret for the motors with such tuning from Piasini.
In AP everything is correct and, I would say, elegant.

I please to excuse for my English.

 

[tuckaloe]

I can compare both tuning dumps from Piasini and from AP, place them in the editor on each other.
So tuning dump and stock dump.
Honestly speaking, I do not know, which there can attract attention?
Piasini has sharp, rough, torn tuning of engine. (eek2)
There are many errors in changes in the calibrations.
I express regret for the motors with such tuning from Piasini.
In AP everything is correct and, I would say, elegant.

I please to excuse for my English.

Interesting. So is the Piasani unsafe in your opinion, or just "rough around the edges"?

Here's why I ask. Back in the day, I owned a 2002 1.8t GTI. At the time, GAIC software was "rough" and aggressive, APR software was more refined. The rough stuff was actually alot more fun to drive. The APR was so smooth, made the same #s, but just didn't grab you and make you pay attention . So yeah, I'm kicking the door open for Piasani, if that's worth anything......

 

[yamomoto]

Interesting. So is the Piasani unsafe in your opinion, or just "rough around the edges"?

Here's why I ask. Back in the day, I owned a 2002 1.8t GTI. ......

First, we speak about tuning firmware ecus Mazda.
You did see tuning dump from Piasini for Mazda?

For 1.8T GTI there are many finished, well developed versions.
Your version 1.8 GTI was developed directly Piasini , or in it they did purchase?

In the second place, I not the first year professionally deal with tuning firmware ecus, and this my personal opinion.

 

[zaka]

I can compare both tuning dumps from Piasini and from AP, place them in the editor on each other.
So tuning dump and stock dump.
Honestly speaking, I do not know, which there can attract attention?
Piasini has sharp, rough, torn tuning of engine. (eek2)
There are many errors in changes in the calibrations.
I express regret for the motors with such tuning from Piasini.
In AP everything is correct and, I would say, elegant.

I please to excuse for my English.

@ Yamomoto, I live in Switzerland and have a Piasini Tune on my 3 MPS. I dynoed my car after reflash, and I gained 55hp/100Nm with this tune/ETS and Test Pipe.
AP do NOT work on MPS!!!
I don't mind about what do you think about Piasini Tune, but I know it's another car with this. Now another guys in France use this reflash, and always the same gain about 40hp/100Nm (always dynoed before/after).

I'll change the downpipe and intake on my car, and I don't need to change map or something else, such a AP...