Performance! What to do?

[autoxes]

Since you know everything, go right ahead and up the boost. Since you are SO well versed in the inner workings of the Mazdaspeed Protege. I'm sure you know more than all of the people on here that have 25k+ into their cars.

Experience > Research, in all cases.

I suppose you know all about the diff issue too right? But don't listen to me, by any means.

 

[Flipping Elf]

^ yo I own a DSM! I know about problems

Thants exactly what i dont want to do is put 25k just for a 14 sec car haha

 

[autoxes]

See Crank...See Crank walk...Walk Crank! Walk!

 

[cmahlig]

just stick to building toys

 

[Kypatrick]

ooooh, another BOOM! coming.

ROFL!!!!!!(deadhorse(nana)

 

[Kypatrick]

Actually these cars are temperamental, your car might hold 15psi, or blow on 7. I knew some chick Amy, aka "MSpro" who said she ran 15 the whole time (i think for over 50,000 miles), tryin to blow the motor and it never blew. So he might be a rare lucky one, but im not gonna try it, im a po white guy!!
Also, i hope he does prove us wrong honestly, maybe he can figure out this perfect Fuel/air mix on 12 psi or something, who knows! Im not gonna knock him for trying, but i might giggle a lil if he goes boom.
I want to also add that o run 8.5 with only a CustomMSP SMIC, Samoc Hotpipe, S.U. Coldpipe, Turbosmart Daul Port valve, and Turbosmart MBC, gutted cats, and an AEM dryflow in place of airbox. Also, im running Autolite Racing Plugs "AR3923", I dont have any type of ECU piggyback.
I know, i opened a comment gate!!!!

 

[dsmgonemsp]

well flipping elf.. good to see another dsm'r. But im going to have to stray from that fact and side with the boys and girls around here. Theres a reason the car comes stock with extremely low boost. Its like turbo'ing a 420a motor and wanting to run 15 lbs of boost- s*** jus aint gonna happen ya know? What you got is a car that is been made to have just enough to pep to get you going (explains the insanely early spool) and handle really well. Of course you can up the boost- but its going to cost you a couple stacks on internals for that. Sure not like the might 4g63 where the damn bottom end is pretty much bullet proof from the factory (besides crank walk but that s*** is over-rated IMO and who the hell rocks a 7 bolt CWing engine when the 6 bolt swap is that simple haha ya know?) So your best bet- get the car running right, do a few bolt ons *READ THE STICKIES* and go from there. Good luck

 

[2.0t03speed]

I understand the rod problem, but with any car you have problems if you dont get your air/fuel right

Look I have researched about this car why else would I buy the damn thing, I cant sit here and spit out all my knowlege about cars, but it seems like too many people are spooked about this whole car breaking thing. If its such an issue than why do you all of you still own one?
I bet you all would s*** a brick if I even mentioned Nitrous!

if you reasearched this car as extensively as you say then why even bother making this thread? i know the car breaks why? because i have broken things on it. The reason i still own one? is because no one else has done anything like what im doing to my car around here before i took my car down i had the fastest msp in the area. and to be honest alot of ppl have sold there msp's and moved onto bigger and better things because of all of the issues with this car. BUT since you obviously know more about this car then i do, even tho im building my own motor and have taken just about everything apart none of the advice im giving you really matter becuase you allready know about all the problems with this car and the tsb's right?

 

[2.0t03speed]

also one more thing ppl have blown there motors with good conservative afr's

 

[2.0t03speed]

lol and one more thing we are not spooked about the car breaking we know all about it we have owned the car and been thru alot more with the car then you have being as you just bought it. Just trying to save you from making the same mistakes some of us have.

 

[Kypatrick]

Now he prob has the silly thing for sale!
Think we should have gone easier on him?

 

[2.0t03speed]

what do yo mean gone easy on him we told him the truth and the problems with this car there was nothing to go easy on

 

[SeR_Cyclops]

every car has problems, and that is the truth!

 

[1fstmsp]

Im with 2.0t03speed on this one, i have (imo) lots of supporting mods, and i wont run any more then 10PSI and thats when its well tuned with my SS FTC1. If you want cheap power sell the MSP and get another DSM. These cars cant be made fast by cranking the boost up and slapping a huge turbo on it!

 

[MS_Rick]

shiiiiit.. after reading this I am about to sell my car!!(huh)

 

[dsmgonemsp]

Im with 2.0t03speed on this one, i have (imo) lots of supporting mods, and i wont run any more then 10PSI and thats when its well tuned with my SS FTC1. If you want cheap power sell the MSP and get another DSM. These cars cant be made fast by cranking the boost up and slapping a huge turbo on it!

lol, theres a little more to making a dsm fast than that bud... cant run much more than 15lbs on the stock fuel system- Fact is this. I dont give a flying **** what kind of car you drive, you need the supporting QUALITY mods in order to make it work correctly. Sure, you can probably "crank" up the boost, but hope your pockets are deep because when you half ass s*** thats when the boost bug becomes deadly and you can kiss your sweet motor bye bye. Its not cheap making a car fast, everyone knows this, some cars have more potential some need more work. Question you have to ask yourself is, how far do I want to go... and am I willing to pay the price because fact of the matter is- dont care HOW great you are what you do- somethings is bound to break. So to whatever you do, Wish you the best of luck.

 

[2.0t03speed]

id rather have a fuel system that cant support past 15 psi then a motor that can barely support 12. which would you rather upgrade the fuel system or the bottom end?

 

[dsmgonemsp]

Depends how you look at it... I personally dont taking a car thats not totally ready for boost, building the motor, and cranking out some impressive numbers. Just more satisfying to me I guess when people come up to you ask what you have done, and knowing you did all the work yourself. Granted its a hell of a lot cheaper to just upgrade the fuel system, of course it is, but that was not my point. Point was you cant just take any car and decide to crank your boost levels to insane numbers without doing proper modifications. That and everyone knows the t-25 is a joke for a fast car, its def. a starved snail.

 

[1fstmsp]

lol thanks for slammin down on me dsmgonemsp, i was just being a smart ass. But you do have to agree with me that a 1G DSM (with a 6 bolt) is way more easy to make fast than an MSP. Just seems like most the 1G DSM's i see around my neck of the woods are very...poorly put together.

 

[dsmgonemsp]

I agree 110% with you on that one. Its not hard to make a car fast, but it does take time, knowledge and of course some cash here and there- every cars different. And I know what you mean, I dont see a lot of 1gs but see a lot of 2gs and most times I do, its some punk ass kid hearing from someone "crank the boost" and they dont even know what the term boost means lol. A 12 second street car to me would be quick, you gotta remember, more power= more stress and more broken parts- just how s*** goes!