OH NO!!! engine blown!

identical (save for the top part of the oil pan)... for the oil return line, but you can just use the MSP one when you put it together
 
yep...all the same! FSDE 2.0L for the MP3, Protege, MSP and Protege5. Also found in MX6, 626 and Probe.
 
Sweet!! It should be easy to find then. I will prolly go with forged internals along with it.
 
yeah... it is pretty stunning how loud it was... I guess most people (not trying to insult you hello2000) lift before it gets that loud...

also, I would recomend Oliver Rods and CP pistons. contact Beau (MAMotorsports) and order some. I think there is a special runnning on them right now.

these are the best, hands down. I have them.
 
Were you just cruising in 5th or were you on it? How long have you been running 12psi? What other mods do you have...jsut curious


Chris
 
I was just crusing in 5th and my mods are listed below. I have been running 12psi for about a month. I was running 10psi before. The reason I had the camera out was I was going video me racing some cars locally.
 
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do you know how much they are?
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$1300, $1350.. something like that... also they are custom made, and you can have them set up for stock bore, or an overbore if you want...

also, as a side note the rods aren't just forged, they are billet.. and are very nice to look at.
 
Everyone will blow up their engine in the speed it is just a matter of time. bad rods. If you order forged internals be prepared to wait a long time. I have waited 14 weeks and the rods do not fit into the block. I had to overnight them to Oliver at a cost of 50 bucks. This sucks because I still have to make the car payment while it sits in the garage. BE PREPARED TO WAIT A LONG TIME FOR PISTONS ANS RODS. (bike)
 
I should copy and paste this thread into all the other threads made by people saying that you can run higher boost without any worries. Seems like there has been a lot of those threads around here lately.

Sorry about your loss man. How much if the AEM EMS going to run for? I'm looking into getting a EMS, but I don't want anything too complicated to install, and PnP is really nice. I'm looking at Unichip, but I want to do a bit more tuning than it allows. AEM might be a good option, but I am faily new to it.
 
That's funny because all of us who have blown our motors have said the same thing," I am running 15 lbs of boost with no problems!" This should be the MSP Motto
 
Yeah...I would like everyone to know, you CANNOT run 12psi with stock internals. It was only a matter of time. I just got boost crazy when I felt the 12psi. You can upgrade the intake, FMIC all day long, but if you don't get the internals replaced--you will left without a car just like me.



Bhamsan said:
I should copy and paste this thread into all the other threads made by people saying that you can run higher boost without any worries. Seems like there has been a lot of those threads around here lately.

Sorry about your loss man. How much if the AEM EMS going to run for? I'm looking into getting a EMS, but I don't want anything too complicated to install, and PnP is really nice. I'm looking at Unichip, but I want to do a bit more tuning than it allows. AEM might be a good option, but I am faily new to it.
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The problem is...you can blow the engine even at low boost level...it just takes some more time.

Higher boost = need management.

A small bliss of detonation (for example) @ 40psi on forged internals will blow something too. If its not the rods, then the pistons, gasket or any other thing....the 1st weakest link after piston and rod.
 
Daym you had a fmic with 93 octane and blew you engine at 12..**** now Im scared to be boostin 10 psi with fmic and full exhaust. Maybe im jus bein paranoid but good luck with the new motor en stuff. I would be on the verge of suicide if I was you. Sorry man.
 
Yep, and it seems as if more engines are going to be blown because people are running 16psi on stock internals with no EMS. Then, people get all mad because others are trying to warn them that its not good for the engine, even though there are more than a few members on this board who have blown their engines, even at low boost. When are people going to learn?

To be honest, I thought 12psi to be a safe level to boost. I was going to turn it up to 10psi, but I didn't have a FCD and still don't. I think I'll get Unichip and run it at 10psi for a while until I can get another EMS that I can tune to run 15psi. I believe that on stock internals, the engine will hold up with correct tuning at 15psi, not the other way around doing forged internals with no EMS at 15psi.

Definitely go with EMS, and if you can get it, forged internals as well. It'll all help you out in the long run.
 
is your FCD hooked up all the time. it does sound like your car was detonating. i know the FCD will alter the fuel and timing maps and on certain cars can detonate at high rpm or heavy load. this is why it's recommended to put the FCD on a switch and to use high octane gas.
 
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