^^ Haha, trust me, I know it's not easy I used to be a salesman of different types for a living. Now I'm a project manager for pipelines and natural gas compressor stations so I've become immune to the petty one-on-one pressure that one man can exert. But I do understand what you're saying. When I was a salesman I took everything personally and thus was not particularly good at it. Dealing with my newest career, disaster after disaster and everyone and their grandmother trying to throw me under the bus, has toughened me up. Dealing with a sales manager sounds like a cake walk now, but I know it's not. Grass is always greener on the other side. Oh well, it's just a dream and I'm assuming my dream will stay a dream.
Official 2011 Mazda5 Thread
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I like the seats. One of my pet peeves on the current Mazda5 was that the interior was only offered in black and light tan, both of which show dirt easily. The dark gray seats would be much better in my opinion plus I like the two-tone colors.
With regard to salesmen and dealers in general, remember that they are trained to sell what they have in stock. They don't want to get you interested in something that won't be available in the fall - they have cars on the lot now that they need to sell, plus you might change your mind before the fall or whatever. Though the salesmen should know the vehicle, before I went to St. Louis to look at (and buy) my Mazda5 I decided to give my local dealer a shot. The salesman was sure that the Mazda5 was not available with manual transmission.
With regard to salesmen and dealers in general, remember that they are trained to sell what they have in stock. They don't want to get you interested in something that won't be available in the fall - they have cars on the lot now that they need to sell, plus you might change your mind before the fall or whatever. Though the salesmen should know the vehicle, before I went to St. Louis to look at (and buy) my Mazda5 I decided to give my local dealer a shot. The salesman was sure that the Mazda5 was not available with manual transmission.
My dog got to a bottle of Vitamin C and ingested almost everything... we didn't know until after he puked it all out in my grey interior 08 Corolla. Grey, tan, black, nothing will hide pure orange pukeness.
If I had to choose though, I'd go really dark grey for cloth, black for leather.
If I had to choose though, I'd go really dark grey for cloth, black for leather.
Here is what it says on the right, under the girl in purple:
I don't speak (or read) Japanese, but a coworker does.
By the way, that tray that we have in the second row - it does block people from moving to the back. It's nice for long trips where somebody will be sitting for a while, but for day to day driving we keep ours folded up.
The center aisle is for 3rd row passengers to stretch their legs. Making the 3rd row more comfortable than the 2nd..
Perhaps Mazda will replace the karakuri seat with the Ford [Grand] C-Max's setup, which will be US DOT compliant. Look where the 7th seat stows - under the passenger 2nd row.
Ford's setup is better. I'd rather move outboard armrests to the sliding doors to widen overall 2nd row seat cushion width.
Just wondering. Did Mazda/Ford increase HVAC capacity?
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I believe the window opening has been increased by 3%...
LOL
J/k, I doubt the Mazda5 has done that to be honest (the 2nd row one is a great improvement and "recent" so not sure)
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Logically I think Mazda would use the existing 2.5 in the Mazda 3 and I think it will be only engine option -again. There is not enough demand for this car for Mazda to make other options viable. Also, I don't think US buyers would pay a premium for the start stop feature unless it greatly increase MPG, particularly highway b/c US is all about highways, unlike Asia and Europe which does more city commuting.
That said, looking at the exsiting Mazda 3 5 door (6 speed MT btw), the 2.5 gets 21/29 (MT) and 22/29 (AT). With the added weight of the 5, it would get something below this, unless they somehow magically work the ratios to maximize MPG but this would hurt the sporty drive. Additionally, even if the 7th seat is avail, Ford’s is looking much better. The 2011 is not looking good for Mazda… time to plan my attack on a 2010 and maybe swap in a 2011 middle row (wonder if this is possible?). The only saving grace is if the 2.5 have DI.
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2011 Mazda On Sale in Japan
The Mazda went on sale July 1st. They have tons of videos and pictures at the following link.
http://www.premacy.mazda.co.jp/
The Mazda went on sale July 1st. They have tons of videos and pictures at the following link.
http://www.premacy.mazda.co.jp/
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two things I don't see that I am disappointed by.
1) no trays behind the 1st two seats for the 2nd row.
2) no center HAVC for 2nd row.
The rear valence and spoiler does make the backend look much nicer. Front is growing on me but the sides are still fuggly.
1) no trays behind the 1st two seats for the 2nd row.
2) no center HAVC for 2nd row.
The rear valence and spoiler does make the backend look much nicer. Front is growing on me but the sides are still fuggly.
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Not sure what you mean by 'trays', but the same center console wth cup holders flips out of the right hand 2nd row seat as mine. The center seat (if you can call it that) doesn't appeal to us at all, couldn't fit a booster there...have to be a 6+ yo kid with a narrow posterior.
I didn't see any rear a/c either, that wouldn't fly here in Florida.
The rear end styling is obviously stolen from the Odyssey with some curves added - it's OK. The front end and sidelines aren't appealing whatsoever. Unless the vehicle is about 3 inches wider, the 'walk-through' 1st row is useless. The only way it would appeal to me at all is if it were a diesel. Doubt our gov't will let that happen in the next decade though.
I didn't see any rear a/c either, that wouldn't fly here in Florida.
The rear end styling is obviously stolen from the Odyssey with some curves added - it's OK. The front end and sidelines aren't appealing whatsoever. Unless the vehicle is about 3 inches wider, the 'walk-through' 1st row is useless. The only way it would appeal to me at all is if it were a diesel. Doubt our gov't will let that happen in the next decade though.
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Well, I think the view from behind is better than the rear view of my 2009 M-5.
That is good!
However, the front "smiling" grill is not much better.
But, I didn't buy my 2009 for the sake of appearances. I would need to check
out the interior features and performance to be able to say whether or not it
is an overall improvement.
By the way, on a recent trip from El Paso to the left coast (California) I saw
a grand total of one other Mazda 5. It must be a low profit vehicle for Mazda.
That is good!
However, the front "smiling" grill is not much better.
But, I didn't buy my 2009 for the sake of appearances. I would need to check
out the interior features and performance to be able to say whether or not it
is an overall improvement.
By the way, on a recent trip from El Paso to the left coast (California) I saw
a grand total of one other Mazda 5. It must be a low profit vehicle for Mazda.
The Mazda5 is really a small niche vehicle that Mazda almost never advertises. I live in Los Angeles and I see very few of them... Ironically Mazda is based in Irvine but it's not really a popular car around here. Californian's are more into image and not so much into practicality.
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Some online/concept pics show the rear of the driver and passenger seats have foldable trays -think airplan seats/tray.
It's not a rare car in most places. As I've said before, I see 5's driving out of my neighborhood every day. We can see dozens in one afternoon driving around running errands. I have three just on my street with about 30 houses. Go around the corner and there's more, and more.
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Globe and Mail 2011 Mazda5 news (from Canada)
By the end of the year or early next, Mazda Canada will introduce the production version of the Mazda5 wagon/minivan shown at the Geneva auto show in March.
The 5 is the first production vehicle to adopt Mazdas Nagare design philosophy. Nagare, the Japanese word for flow, is a style developed under former Mazda design director Laurens van den Acker and continued by new design chief Ikuo Maeda.
While Mazda hopes the swoopy styling will take the sting out of buying a family-hauler, vans still need to be functional first, slick-looking second. Therefore, the interior will have multiple seat arrangements and a second-row centre seat that can be converted into storage space.
The seven-passenger Mazda5 is an illustration of smart, cost-saving engineering. Although the vehicle looks new inside and out, many of the underpinnings are carried over from the current model borrowed or re-engineered, not completely redesigned. For instance, the centre consoles information display is pulled straight from the Mazda3 and CX-7.
It will also be greener than the current model. In Geneva, Mazda said the new 5 will reduce carbon dioxide emissions 15 per cent thanks to a direct-injection gasoline engine and the introduction of Mazda's i-stop start-stop technology. The direct injection power train is definitely coming to Canada, but its not clear when Mazda will bring start-stop in North America.
For power, Mazda will replace the former 153-horsepower, 2.3-litre four-cylinder with a more powerful, 167-hp 2.5-litre borrowed from the Mazda3. The bigger jump is in torque, which leaps from 148 pounds-feet to an estimated 168.
Canadian buyers will get a choice of a five-speed automatic transmission or a six-speed manual.
Robert Davis, Mazda senior vice-president of product development and quality, says his team performed substantial suspension retuning for better ride and handling. That will set the 5 apart from other minivans.
A little further down the road, Mazda will bring its Sky-D direct-injection diesel engines to North America in 2012. And a new hybrid-technology alliance with Toyota could result in Mazda hybrids being sold here, too.
At the New York Auto Show this spring, Takashi Yamanouchi, CEO of Mazda Motor Corp., told Automotive News that the first Mazda diesel coming to North America will be a mid-sized vehicle. He did not say whether it would be the redesigned Mazda6 or a crossover such as the CX-9.
The diesels are part of Mazdas overall plan to boost fleet-wide fuel economy by 15 per cent in the next few years. Central to that cause are Mazda's direct-injection Sky-G gasoline engines coming in 2011.
Mazda is also expected to redesign the MX-5 roadster in 2011, as well as bring a new compact crossover to market to replace the current Tribute. The new crossover will not be a shared platform with the Ford Escape, which has been the case up to now.
[Mail and Globe]
By the end of the year or early next, Mazda Canada will introduce the production version of the Mazda5 wagon/minivan shown at the Geneva auto show in March.
The 5 is the first production vehicle to adopt Mazdas Nagare design philosophy. Nagare, the Japanese word for flow, is a style developed under former Mazda design director Laurens van den Acker and continued by new design chief Ikuo Maeda.
While Mazda hopes the swoopy styling will take the sting out of buying a family-hauler, vans still need to be functional first, slick-looking second. Therefore, the interior will have multiple seat arrangements and a second-row centre seat that can be converted into storage space.
The seven-passenger Mazda5 is an illustration of smart, cost-saving engineering. Although the vehicle looks new inside and out, many of the underpinnings are carried over from the current model borrowed or re-engineered, not completely redesigned. For instance, the centre consoles information display is pulled straight from the Mazda3 and CX-7.
It will also be greener than the current model. In Geneva, Mazda said the new 5 will reduce carbon dioxide emissions 15 per cent thanks to a direct-injection gasoline engine and the introduction of Mazda's i-stop start-stop technology. The direct injection power train is definitely coming to Canada, but its not clear when Mazda will bring start-stop in North America.
For power, Mazda will replace the former 153-horsepower, 2.3-litre four-cylinder with a more powerful, 167-hp 2.5-litre borrowed from the Mazda3. The bigger jump is in torque, which leaps from 148 pounds-feet to an estimated 168.
Canadian buyers will get a choice of a five-speed automatic transmission or a six-speed manual.
Robert Davis, Mazda senior vice-president of product development and quality, says his team performed substantial suspension retuning for better ride and handling. That will set the 5 apart from other minivans.
A little further down the road, Mazda will bring its Sky-D direct-injection diesel engines to North America in 2012. And a new hybrid-technology alliance with Toyota could result in Mazda hybrids being sold here, too.
At the New York Auto Show this spring, Takashi Yamanouchi, CEO of Mazda Motor Corp., told Automotive News that the first Mazda diesel coming to North America will be a mid-sized vehicle. He did not say whether it would be the redesigned Mazda6 or a crossover such as the CX-9.
The diesels are part of Mazdas overall plan to boost fleet-wide fuel economy by 15 per cent in the next few years. Central to that cause are Mazda's direct-injection Sky-G gasoline engines coming in 2011.
Mazda is also expected to redesign the MX-5 roadster in 2011, as well as bring a new compact crossover to market to replace the current Tribute. The new crossover will not be a shared platform with the Ford Escape, which has been the case up to now.
[Mail and Globe]
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