Nitrous MSP?

12s in a protege is scary fast. This engine is not meant to be that fast, the whole car is not meant for that much power.

14.0 is good enough

13s is a lot of power....on stock internals, is in the edge of an engine failure.
 
scary fast is scary fast, no matter what car it is in. 12's isn't scary fast. it's fast, but i wouldn't be scared of a car that runs 12's :) by the time you get to 12's, it won't be just a protege any more, it will have been rebuilt to more or less an entire custom engine, so what it happens to be sitting in isn't a big thing.
 
I should rephrase to...... Scary fast for a Protege. :D

Scary fast is a 99 mustang with a turbo the size of a soccer ball, with more roll cage then I have seen in nascar, using EVERY inch of there side of the race track, getting in and out of the throttle 5 times going down the track and still run in the 7's. Guy came back and literally KISSED the ground. That was scary fast.
 
If all that was done is a built engine to make the MSP a 12sec. car, I'd be scared shitless. The body wasn't designed for that kind of power, neither was the tranny, diff, axles, suspension, and... more importantly... BRAKES!!!:eek:

With all the mods and custom work that needs to be done to this car to make it a stable 12sec. car, it would have been cheaper to find a '64 Chevy II Nova and make your own drag car. Besides, Chevy isn't like Mazda. There's a lot more aftermarket options to customize the ride (plus a lot of them in junkyards to find parts on the cheap).
 
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FrozenMazda said:
I know Venom makes a kit that I was looking at for my MX-6, but was wondering if it would work for the MSP. (shrug) After the flash, I'm still having a little hesitation if I accelerate from 2nd gear (1st is too quick to notice). With the Venom system, you could program where the nitrous would turn on and off so you could run it on the low end and then shut it off when you're in the boost RPM's for the turbo.

If all you're looking for is quicker spool, would that be a possible solution?

Also, has anybody tried the NOSzle system on their vehicle and if so, how do you like it?

-Roach

I have a shark nozzle..w/ my NX kit...It's basically the same..nx came first..then nos copy'd it!

I wouldn't suggest going w/ a Dry kit like venom..I have heard of many protege's biteing the dust from a dry kit!

W/ a wet kit..you can have it shut off at certain rpm's..It's called a window switch..cost anywhere from 70-100 usd!!

Ohh..And about scary fast...Well..To me for a protege to be scary fast..must be faster than 14's in the 1/4 mile!!

Crockette-

Get a larger turbo..If ya want that big HP...Like a t3 or even a t3/t4 w/ a small shot from the bottle! I am sure you'll get past 14's..but ofcourse..the engine might not hold that kind of power!

Chas
 
if I have a heat shield on a SRI......would it be fairly safe for me to have nitrous spray into the heat shielded area (but not directly into the intake) and then also onto the IC? I would imagine so since at the very worst its just like your engine is taking in middle of winter air......evne if it happens to be summer....

how does nos work? do you just buy a bottle, and a kit and rig it up to spray wherever u want? or do they have special kits for spraying ICs and whatnot versus direct injection?
 
slug420 said:
if I have a heat shield on a SRI......would it be fairly safe for me to have nitrous spray into the heat shielded area (but not directly into the intake) and then also onto the IC? I would imagine so since at the very worst its just like your engine is taking in middle of winter air......evne if it happens to be summer....

how does nos work? do you just buy a bottle, and a kit and rig it up to spray wherever u want? or do they have special kits for spraying ICs and whatnot versus direct injection?

well..nos means..Nitrous Oxide System..

I think you mean how does nitrous work...
check out this link http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question259.htm

Well..basically for intercooler..you just want to shoot directly onto the intercooler itself...by means of a dry kit conversion..

When you want to go w/ a direct shot (NOT PORT)..you want to mix the nitrous w/ fuel give a better mixture to the car and shooting it directly into the throttle body..to make sure it's not wasted on the walls of the intake...also it protects ya..from the infamous..lean problem!

Chas:cool:
 
Sparkz28SS said:
nah......its not that...I just think you need to give your soapbox a rest....

Umm, ok... :rolleyes: Just because you didn't like to be proven wrong on a subject that I have about 10 years experience in does not put me on a soapbox.. I just can't stand mis-information on message boards- and there is a LOT of it going on here.. Read my #'s then compare them to others and tell me I don't have a right to preach right or wrong when it comes to what I know best :). I have always been the type that is I am unsure about something or just flat out don't know- I will listen to others and figure it out from there- but if I do know- don't argue with me- my fiancee can vouch for that :). I just try to pass what I have learned over the years on so that others don't go through all the same trial and error BS I did.. Hell, my first "boost controller" was a brake bleeder in a pipe tee on an 88 turbo coupe, my second was an aquarium bleeder valve mounted INSIDE the car via about 11' of hose- trust me, I have been there and done that and learned a lot in doing so- that is why I said a "controlled boost leak" was the worst way to adjust boost.. No biggie either way.. To each his own...
Joe
 
Sparkz28SS said:
nah......its not that...I just think you need to give your soapbox a rest....


Hey- what does your 94 Z run? What kind of traps? I just noticed that you had one. We may have talked about them before, but I don't remember for sure :).. I have a 94 that ran 11.1@126 with a 1.86 60' and a 150 shot on a VERY mild stroker motor. I will probably be re-camming it this winter and puting a better set of heads, larger throttle body, etc on it. I want the car back in the low 11's, high 10's on the motor again.. It is nice being 100% streetable, but as always, it is not fast enough- especially when it used to be faster :).
Joe
 
twiztedjeckel said:
the Rotary Performance drag/street legal RX-7 runs a T-78 and a 50 shot to spool it. she's doin fine with it and running 9's in the quarter(bowdown) (bowdown)

yeah its also a wet kit.
 
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