Nitrous MSP?

[Crockett59]

OKay,

I'm new and you guys can flame me if you want but I gotta ask.

Since the MSP comes from the factory with such an RICH program wouldn't it be the perfect candidate for NO2? I mean a 50 -75 Dry shot fed through the New ZEX Air cleaner thing (Forgot the name, can't find the paper work)

Or if you do so you will melt the poor little piston right out of in and have to spend quite a bit of money to try and do it again?

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

Think you put that much in 50 with a turbo it now almost 100 shot it kinda doubles cause the turbo not good I ran NOS in my miata and oh my GOD! its fun but not worth it on a MSP

 

[Crockett59]

Think you put that much in 50 with a turbo it now almost 100 shot it kinda doubles cause the turbo not good I ran NOS in my miata and oh my GOD! its fun but not worth it on a MSP

What????? Are you saying that slapping on a Dry 50Shot on a MSP with a CAI would not be worth it? The overly Rich condition could be overcome with a 50-75. I mean true this is not going to help in everyday situations, but it would be fun to blow the doors clean off of unsuspecting cars. It wouls shave a clean .5-8 tenths off the 1/4 mile time If not more.

 

[PHILLY-ORANGE]

your turbo would get so hot I didnt say it wouldnt be worth it I said your going to need mods and to look into it befor you just find a kit and install it and not know what ur getting your self into I'm pretty sure the amount doubles 50shot with a turbo its around 100shot

 

[jus10 msp]

hey man the zex kit with the nozzle in the air filter will not work on a turbo car. this is because you would be spraying right into the turbo. the zex wet shoot kit would be the one i would use if i was going to spray a msp but only a 35 shot of no2.

thanks justin

 

[igdrasil]

I would say:

Upgrade your turbine, get a wetshot not over 50hp.

Cant imagine how fast would the Nitrous shot spool that little turbo up.

 

[Newf]

I say it again

BOOM!

 

[jred321]

your turbo would get so hot I didnt say it wouldnt be worth it I said your going to need mods and to look into it befor you just find a kit and install it and not know what ur getting your self into I'm pretty sure the amount doubles 50shot with a turbo its around 100shot

 

[bored132]

if you want no2 on your car you should get an Ntercooler system that sprays no2 or co2 on the intercooler to keep the core temperature low. This would be the safest way

 

[Sparkz28SS]

heh...it does not double......it may help cool off the charge....but its not going to double the output....anyway....on stock boost I dont think a 50shot would be to hard on it

 

[Sparkz28SS]

hey man the zex kit with the nozzle in the air filter will not work on a turbo car. this is because you would be spraying right into the turbo. the zex wet shoot kit would be the one i would use if i was going to spray a msp but only a 35 shot of no2.

thanks justin

uuhhhmmm...thats a dry kit...its ok to spray a dry shot before the turbo.....just not a wet shot

 

[boostisgood]

NAWWWWWZZZZZ on the msp is something I have been contemplating. As far as how much it can handle, you would seriously need to dyno tune it with full fuel and timing control. Even though it runs rich from the factory, that is to compensate for boost levels up to about 12 psi tops. If you run the stok boost, ans shoot a 50 shot into it, the initial shock of the added power would eventually kill a rod.

You seriously cant just slap turbos, and nos kits on cars, and expect a 12 second Fast and Furious, flame shooting out the exhaust car. I, again, strongly suggest to learn as much as you can about forced induction as possible. You will NOT learn that here, you should search the net, and buy one of the many books regarding this subject.

 

[kwiktsi]

uuhhhmmm...thats a dry kit...its ok to spray a dry shot before the turbo.....just not a wet shot

I wouldn't spray any shot before the turbo- just put a nozzle in the upper IC pipe and be done. A 50 hp shot would be worth probably about 70-75 hp due to the cooling effect it has on the air charge also. As for spool up- it would be like an on off switch for the turbo .. I ran a 75 shot on my talon with a 60 trim compressor and it picked up 12 mph and almost a full second in the 1/4. Plus the spool was instant once I hit the button- even with the big turbo .
Joe

 

[kwiktsi]

You seriously cant just slap turbos, and nos kits on cars, and expect a 12 second Fast and Furious, flame shooting out the exhaust car.

No, but if you tune the NAWS timer, you'll go 9's .
Joe

 

[boostisgood]

(lol) I love ya joe, in a totally plutonic, forum buddy, type way

 

[kwiktsi]

(lol) I love ya joe, in a totally plutonic, forum buddy, type way

Lol--- Apparently "Sparkz28SS" doesn't
http://www.msprotege.com/vbb225/showthread.php?threadid=34296&goto=newpost


Joe

 

[boostisgood]

Yeah Joe, I totally understand your frustration with some people here. It gets kinda sad and repeptitive with some of the asstards, and what thier idea of tuning is.

To eah thier own I say.

 

[Crockett59]

Hey I wanted answers, and I got them.

I would figure that if you shot it before the turbo you would give it a cooling affect which would in turn lean out the A/f Mixture, then by adding the extra Oxygen into the mix it would lean it out to a safe level. Then again this should be DYNO tested of course.

I was told that if you have a SuperCharger ( I DO) You shouldn't run Nitrous. But people still do!!!! The FASTEST GEN2 Lightning runs off of Nitrous express.

The Nitrous Express N-Ter cooler is a cool product, but not worth the money that they want for it. You can go to a swap meet and get a used Nitrous bottle, Nitrous solenoids, some braided lines, and some copper tubing and make your own for about $150

 

[Apexi]

I say it again

BOOM!

hes right...i read somewhere the stock rods are only good for 225...i dont remember f that was crank or wheel..but nitrous would definetly bring you close to that if not over it, depending on the size shot

 

[boostisgood]

There has be no extensive, or at least released, data released, telling us what the stock internals can handle.

I can say this, its all in the tuning of the car. Crockett, that truck your referring to, is a well tuned machine, with full stand alone managment. That is why they run both a SC and nitrous.

Look at many of the Compact drag cars out there. They run Methonol fed engines, with big ass trubos and Nitrous. They can do this, becuase of full controll of timing and fuel delivery. Its not bout slapping the stuff on and running it. I cannot stress this enough, its tuning tuning tuning, and tuning with a stand alone.